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I been thinking about 'up grading' the wheels on my road bike to a tubeless set up. But the curmudgeon in my says that tube work fine so why go through the time and expense setting up to tubeless. Wheels and tires are tubeless ready.
So, what is the benefit of going tubeless; better ride? less flats? less maintenance? Is it worth it?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
So, what is the benefit of going tubeless; better ride? less flats? less maintenance? Is it worth it?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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I been thinking about 'up grading' the wheels on my road bike to a tubeless set up. But the curmudgeon in my says that tube work fine so why go through the time and expense setting up to tubeless. Wheels and tires are tubeless ready.
So, what is the benefit of going tubeless; better ride? less flats? less maintenance? Is it worth it?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
So, what is the benefit of going tubeless; better ride? less flats? less maintenance? Is it worth it?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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This is my experience.....I have Mavic Ksyrium Elite USTs w/Mavic Yksion tires. They were developed as a "system" by Mavic. You can inflate with a regular floor pump. I'm in my 3rd season (I have them on my GFs bike too) and neither of us has had a flat. They are lighter than my Ksyrium Elite clinchers. They seem to roll more easily and they are definitely more comfortable. I haven't encountered any down side yet.
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Functionally nothing. But it is interesting to read through this thread to see how many other older riders view newer technologies such as tubeless tires.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
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Functionally nothing. But it is interesting to read through this thread to see how many other older riders view newer technologies such as tubeless tires.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
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Hacked tubeless. Modifying something to use for other than it's intended purpose. Seems appropriate, but doesn't exactly flow off the tongue.
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Functionally nothing. But it is interesting to read through this thread to see how many other older riders view newer technologies such as tubeless tires.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
And it appears I am in the camp that resists tubeless for most of the reasons cited. I haven't had a flat in years (knock on wood), tubes work well enough and messing with the sealant thing just sounds like trouble to me. And I have to wonder if my age is a factor in all those reasons against tubeless.
Then a new thing comes along with a new set of fiddly stuff. The advantages of that hard earned skillset are reduced, and new things must be learned The retro grouch response is so easy, and maybe even rational. We could just stop learning, and fade away.
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What thoughts are associated with the term 'ghetto tubeless'?
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The term shows contempt for residents of less desirable neighborhoods, especially neighborhoods in which members of minorities live.
I could say it bothers me, as long as it's understood that 'bother' is an understatement.
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The term shows contempt for residents of less desirable neighborhoods, especially neighborhoods in which members of minorities live.
I could say it bothers me, as long as it's understood that 'bother' is an understatement.
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Well, I never though this would have the legs it did. And mostly stayed on topic!
So, the consensuses seems to be that if you flat often then you might be better off with tubeless. I don't flat a lot, this is the bike I ride the least. (yes, it looks at me hanging in the garage forlornly)
I Think I'll not convert this bike to tubeless. Maybe I'll revisit when I need new tires.
Or maybe I'll go tubeless on the new bike I'm getting to celebrate my 65th revolution of the sun.
Thank you all for your thoughts and responses. Too bad we all can't get together IRL for some food and drinks, I think we'd have a really good time!
Enjoy the Ride!
So, the consensuses seems to be that if you flat often then you might be better off with tubeless. I don't flat a lot, this is the bike I ride the least. (yes, it looks at me hanging in the garage forlornly)
I Think I'll not convert this bike to tubeless. Maybe I'll revisit when I need new tires.
Or maybe I'll go tubeless on the new bike I'm getting to celebrate my 65th revolution of the sun.
Thank you all for your thoughts and responses. Too bad we all can't get together IRL for some food and drinks, I think we'd have a really good time!
Enjoy the Ride!
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Whoever recommended that doesn't know what they are talking about. Just add a few ounces every 4-6 months. The only time you'll need to de-mount the tire is because it punctured beyond repair or you wore it out.
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This tubeless thing isn't THAT difficult to understand.
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If I get one or two flats a year, I consider the time I spend installing a new tube less of an inconvenience than messing with sealer. To each his own, I guess, but I'll stick with tubes.
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The stated "tubeless advantage" is due to liquid sealant, which also works rather well inside an inner tube.
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Adding sealant is a piece of cake. Less than 5 minute job. Remove the valve core with valve core removal tool. Pour in sealant. Put valve core back in. Done.
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https://www.alpecincycling.com/en/eq...es-road-bikes/
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I don't think you are "getting it" (the so-called "tubeless advantage") it's more than that.
https://www.alpecincycling.com/en/eq...es-road-bikes/
https://www.alpecincycling.com/en/eq...es-road-bikes/
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Much like there was resistance to disc brakes on road bikes...Tubeless tires on road bikes is the next disc brake right now.
Eventually you'll get it. It's one of them things...You don't know what you don't know.
Eventually you'll get it. It's one of them things...You don't know what you don't know.
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Literally everyone understands why some types of riders prefer tubeless tires for the riding they do.
And I certainly underestimated how popular these technologies would become on road bikes.
But there is a certain contingent of forum posters who refuse to believe that not everyone has the same preferences, even with a completely informed understanding of the differences.
How many flat tires per year do I have to have (or avoid) to make the hassles of a tubeless tire system preferable? The answer is "more than the two or three that I get currently."
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There are dozens of threads on this topic across multiple forums where people with real experience have expressed legitimate gripes about those hassles.
And the fact is, tubeless systems offer zero advantages over tubed tires for someone who gets zero flats... the benefit to hassle ratio is a continuum beyond that, and different riders can draw the line at different places.
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I haven’t personally had any more hassle running tubeless tyres over tubed, but some people clearly do. Those who have never even tried tubeless tyres often presume them to be a big hassle based on what they read. Most of which is from people attempting to run tubeless for the first time. There are new skills to be learnt (as with any change), but there is enough good info out there to get it right. We forget tubes can also be a hassle for someone who has never fitted one before.