Camelbak not safe?
06-20-21, 10:29 AM
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Camelbak not safe?
I just bought a new Podium insulated and the insulation is so much better than my old one and I was very happy
until I read these articles this AM. First I saw this one:
https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/
Ok that does not sound good so I checked the Camelbak's here:
https://www.motherjones.com/environm...ene-dangerous/
Nalgene green looks good but what is available for cyclists?
until I read these articles this AM. First I saw this one:
https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/
Ok that does not sound good so I checked the Camelbak's here:
https://www.motherjones.com/environm...ene-dangerous/
Nalgene green looks good but what is available for cyclists?
06-20-21, 10:34 AM
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I can’t even imagine how many millions of Camebacks that have been sold. The military even uses them. Not to mention all the millions of similar products sold by other manufacturers. If there was a real problem, we would have heard about it by now.
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06-20-21, 10:44 AM
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06-20-21, 10:48 AM
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Camelbak Podiums are BPA, BPS and BPF free. Did I miss something else in your link?
06-20-21, 11:24 AM
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any BPA-free plastics may leach potentially harmful BPA-like chemicals, a dilemma Mother Jones explored in our exposé on the plastics industry earlier this year. But consumers have had no way of knowing which of the items lurking in their pantries might wreak havoc on their hormones. Until now. A new paper in the journal Environmental Health identifies specific plastic products—including AVENT baby bottles, CamelBak sippy cups, and Lock & Lock food storage containers—that leach estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Perhaps more importantly, it also names a few options that are hormone-free.
Estrogenic activity before and after UV exposure
Water bottles before UV - after UV
CamelBak, black Tritan Not tested Positive
CamelBak, blue Tritan Not tested Positive
Nalgene, blue* Tritan Negative Positive
Nalgene, green* Tritan Negative Negative
Topas Cyclic Olefin Copolymer (COC) Negative Negative
Zeonor Cyclic Olefin Polymer (COP) Negative Negative
06-20-21, 11:50 AM
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any BPA-free plastics may leach potentially harmful BPA-like chemicals, a dilemma Mother Jones explored in our exposé on the plastics industry earlier this year. But consumers have had no way of knowing which of the items lurking in their pantries might wreak havoc on their hormones. Until now. A new paper in the journal Environmental Health identifies specific plastic products—including AVENT baby bottles, CamelBak sippy cups, and Lock & Lock food storage containers—that leach estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Perhaps more importantly, it also names a few options that are hormone-free.
Estrogenic activity before and after UV exposure
Water bottles before UV - after UV
CamelBak, black Tritan Not tested Positive
CamelBak, blue Tritan Not tested Positive
Nalgene, blue* Tritan Negative Positive
Nalgene, green* Tritan Negative Negative
Topas Cyclic Olefin Copolymer (COC) Negative Negative
Zeonor Cyclic Olefin Polymer (COP) Negative Negative
any BPA-free plastics may leach potentially harmful BPA-like chemicals, a dilemma Mother Jones explored in our exposé on the plastics industry earlier this year. But consumers have had no way of knowing which of the items lurking in their pantries might wreak havoc on their hormones. Until now. A new paper in the journal Environmental Health identifies specific plastic products—including AVENT baby bottles, CamelBak sippy cups, and Lock & Lock food storage containers—that leach estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Perhaps more importantly, it also names a few options that are hormone-free.
Estrogenic activity before and after UV exposure
Water bottles before UV - after UV
CamelBak, black Tritan Not tested Positive
CamelBak, blue Tritan Not tested Positive
Nalgene, blue* Tritan Negative Positive
Nalgene, green* Tritan Negative Negative
Topas Cyclic Olefin Copolymer (COC) Negative Negative
Zeonor Cyclic Olefin Polymer (COP) Negative Negative
Your second link may have some implications, but the test was with bottles from about a decade ago, so the latest Podium may or may not have these issues. Is it even made from the same material as those tested back then?
If I took a step back and made a list of all the potentially unhealthy things in my life, Camelbak bottles wouldn't come anywhere near the top. What about air pollution, processed food, red meat, pesticides, alcohol, etc? I presume you have all those fully taken care of and this is your final health worry?
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06-20-21, 12:33 PM
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I don't want this to turn into a is science real or not. My question was what is available that does not leach chemicals.
06-20-21, 01:21 PM
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Nalgene green
https://nalgene.com/product/22oz-fit...er-color=green
Stainless insulated
https://www.amazon.com/Travel-Vacuum.../dp/B073F1S37S
These questions are just too hard for BF.
https://nalgene.com/product/22oz-fit...er-color=green
Stainless insulated
https://www.amazon.com/Travel-Vacuum.../dp/B073F1S37S
These questions are just too hard for BF.
06-20-21, 01:31 PM
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So you posted this just so you could answer the question you asked?
06-20-21, 01:43 PM
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No, I'm as lazy as the rest of you losers. I just wanted what I thought would be a quick answer from forum
members on their solutions. If you don't know or don't care just don't reply. Expressions of ignorance are not needed.
members on their solutions. If you don't know or don't care just don't reply. Expressions of ignorance are not needed.
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How old are you? Maybe long term chemical exposure should no longer frighten you.
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Well just maybe your new Camelbak Podium doesn't leach chemicals. Why don't you research the newer material it's made of? Just because some much older Camelbak models potentially have this "hormone" issue, doesn't mean they all do. It looks to me like the Podium is pretty good as far as plastic bottles are concerned (BPA, BPS, BPF free plus some sort of fancy Hydroguard coating that actually does stop your drink tasting of plastic like most cheap bottles). Your alternative is to get a metal bottle if it spooks you that much.
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Okay, so your first link can be ignored for the Camelbak Podium because it discusses the effects of BPA and BPS - which the Podium is free of both.
Your second link may have some implications, but the test was with bottles from about a decade ago, so the latest Podium may or may not have these issues. Is it even made from the same material as those tested back then?
If I took a step back and made a list of all the potentially unhealthy things in my life, Camelbak bottles wouldn't come anywhere near the top. What about air pollution, processed food, red meat, pesticides, alcohol, etc? I presume you have all those fully taken care of and this is your final health worry?
Your second link may have some implications, but the test was with bottles from about a decade ago, so the latest Podium may or may not have these issues. Is it even made from the same material as those tested back then?
If I took a step back and made a list of all the potentially unhealthy things in my life, Camelbak bottles wouldn't come anywhere near the top. What about air pollution, processed food, red meat, pesticides, alcohol, etc? I presume you have all those fully taken care of and this is your final health worry?
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How long does it take for chemicals in your water bottle leach out into the water? If it takes less than one hour I might worry, but I very much doubt it
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