1983 Holdsworth Special Reynolds 531
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1983 Holdsworth Special Reynolds 531
The seller is asking $600. I know next to nothing about Holdsworths. Do you think it’s worth it?
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...331189341.html
I’m also looking at a 1983 Fuji Roubaix Pro with Reynolds 853 frame. Completely different bike, I know.
Thanks!
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Yes it is worth $600. That bike is very, very clean. The frame is excellent and the parts are good. That does appear to be a low mileage bike as per the seller’s description.
if that bike were local to me and my size, I’d buy it.
if that bike were local to me and my size, I’d buy it.
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very nice; thank you for posting
do not recall seeing one previously in this darker orange colour
be aware that kitting is somewhat modest with fittings such as ordinary calibre Matsumoto hubs and a swaged chainset...
(not trying to denigrate it)
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very nice; thank you for posting
do not recall seeing one previously in this darker orange colour
be aware that kitting is somewhat modest with fittings such as ordinary calibre Matsumoto hubs and a swaged chainset...
(not trying to denigrate it)
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...I, too, have never seen a Holdsworth Special in that color. Even with the unique array of components, it's well worth the asking price. Not sure why they chose 27" wheels for the package, so it somewhat limits your replacement tyre choices, but I have a couple of bikes with 27" wheels that I ride here and enjoy. I could say that the Special is stereotypically British in ride quality, but it probably would not help you decide.
The Special's I've seen here typically show up in a unique shade of blue paint. They are often outfitted with different components than yours.
...I, too, have never seen a Holdsworth Special in that color. Even with the unique array of components, it's well worth the asking price. Not sure why they chose 27" wheels for the package, so it somewhat limits your replacement tyre choices, but I have a couple of bikes with 27" wheels that I ride here and enjoy. I could say that the Special is stereotypically British in ride quality, but it probably would not help you decide.
The Special's I've seen here typically show up in a unique shade of blue paint. They are often outfitted with different components than yours.
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Yes. I’m tempted. I’ll see whether I can make some time for the 2 hour round trip to check it out.
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Thanks. What is a swaged chainset? I’ve read a few posts on here, and a wiki article on swaging, and I’m not sure whether it means the back of the spider is crimped instead of…solid? Is it weaker than some other method of forging?
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yes, crimped is a reasonable term
with three-piece chainsets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, the ordinary quality examples are swaged because it it a lower cost method of fabrication
on the very lowest ones the chainwheel is swaged directly to the crank arm
the set on the subject cycle has the spider swaged to the crank arm; in this design both chainwheels can be replaced
higher quality sets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, are of forged construction - the drive side crank arm and the spider are one piece of metal
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me comment intended to point out that calibre of cycle's fittings is below that of frame;
nothing "wrong" with this - just wished to make sure you were aware of it for your decision making...
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what the assemblers did is most sensible from a "bang for the buck" perspective. most forum regulars would agree it makes much more sense to build with a first quality frameset and midliner fittings than it does to put the highest quality fittings on an ordinary frame.
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yes, crimped is a reasonable term
with three-piece chainsets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, the ordinary quality examples are swaged because it it a lower cost method of fabrication
on the very lowest ones the chainwheel is swaged directly to the crank arm
the set on the subject cycle has the spider swaged to the crank arm; in this design both chainwheels can be replaced
higher quality sets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, are of forged construction - the drive side crank arm and the spider are one piece of metal
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me comment intended to point out that calibre of cycle's fittings is below that of frame;
nothing "wrong" with this - just wished to make sure you were aware of it for your decision making...
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what the assemblers did is most sensible from a "bang for the buck" perspective. most forum regulars would agree it makes much more sense to build with a first quality frameset and midliner fittings than it does to put the highest quality fittings on an ordinary frame.
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I wouldn’t undersell the parts. They are clean and very functional. Shimano 600 brakes, Deore shifters, crane rear derailleur, shimano 600 fd, decent wheels. Theses are good parts, but the value of the bike is obviously the frame.
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yes, crimped is a reasonable term
with three-piece chainsets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, the ordinary quality examples are swaged because it it a lower cost method of fabrication
on the very lowest ones the chainwheel is swaged directly to the crank arm
the set on the subject cycle has the spider swaged to the crank arm; in this design both chainwheels can be replaced
higher quality sets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, are of forged construction - the drive side crank arm and the spider are one piece of metal
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me comment intended to point out that calibre of cycle's fittings is below that of frame;
nothing "wrong" with this - just wished to make sure you were aware of it for your decision making...
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what the assemblers did is most sensible from a "bang for the buck" perspective. most forum regulars would agree it makes much more sense to build with a first quality frameset and midliner fittings than it does to put the highest quality fittings on an ordinary frame.
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yes, crimped is a reasonable term
with three-piece chainsets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, the ordinary quality examples are swaged because it it a lower cost method of fabrication
on the very lowest ones the chainwheel is swaged directly to the crank arm
the set on the subject cycle has the spider swaged to the crank arm; in this design both chainwheels can be replaced
higher quality sets, whether cottered steel or alloy cotterless, are of forged construction - the drive side crank arm and the spider are one piece of metal
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me comment intended to point out that calibre of cycle's fittings is below that of frame;
nothing "wrong" with this - just wished to make sure you were aware of it for your decision making...
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what the assemblers did is most sensible from a "bang for the buck" perspective. most forum regulars would agree it makes much more sense to build with a first quality frameset and midliner fittings than it does to put the highest quality fittings on an ordinary frame.
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