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Old 07-10-21, 01:18 PM
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Raked Ti forks?

I took this screen shot from Jan Heine's blog (thanks Jan). The shot of a Horse titanium build at the Enve builders event. The bike is so darn beautiful, but the fork seems to detract from the overall aesthetic of the bike IMHO. I see others curved tubes on titanium bikes, why do you almost never see a raked titanium fork? I love the feel of a high quality steel fork, but the non-raked steel or carbon seems to reign. I guess I do not understand why. I would love to hear the frame builders input.


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A Ti fork will weigh just as much as a steel fork, so it's a lot of work for no payback. People make them though.
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TI is more flexible then steel so a fork would have to be made with "really thick" stock (and as Eric said, weigh a lot) or be made with larger in cross section blades and steerer. Since the steerer is only joined at one end it's section would have to be pretty large, and it's wall thick eenough too.

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Not everyone likes curved fork blades, so the market for that "vintage" look is pretty small. Some people want their new bike to look modern and Enve makes carbon forks, so it makes sense to use their fork on a bike for an Enve event.
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Virtually all Ti forks are segmented with straight legs. You just aren't going to find a tapered blade on a ti fork nowadays, costs too much. Vintage Teledynes had tapered legs, but those are known as "death forks." Do I recall they went to steel forks at some point?

This was the builder's first Ti bike, so he did well for himself getting noticed by Enve. I would definitely not ride a builder's first Ti fork.
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I understand the cost thing, that makes sense for sure. I have a Ti bike with a straight steel fork (the Kona P2 which is heavy) If it had rim brakes, I would get (or build) a steel curved blade fork for it. To address dsaul, there is a lot of functionality to curved blades, and yes, they look great too. It is a personal thing about a plasticky looking thing on the front of a steel or Ti bike.
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I think that's a particularly clunky fork, even for an all-road fork.
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Ti Cycles (Dave Levy) near Portland OR makes custom Ti forks in many configurations. I haven't seen one with curved blades, but here's one with tapered blades and a unicrown top, not the typical segmented design.



He's been making forks like this for over 20 years, and he is the only small builder I have ever heard of who built (with Andy of Strawberry) a fork strength/fatigue testing jig to the specs of the European bike industry. I don't know but I assume his Ti forks pass the most stringent standards. Ask him, he'll have the details on that. I have seen his Ti forks on MTBs and tandems, so definitely reliable on a road single.

A tapered and curved blade model would not be outside his abilities, but no doubt rather expensive. Normal custom forks are $1100 according to the website.

Disclaimer, I used to work there, though we haven't spoken in ~20 years.

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That is a beautiful fork. Ti Cycles built a fork for me, as I wanted to replace the steel fork that came on my '13 Ti Fargo. It save me a pound, but luckily it didn't cost me $1100. I think they now have some Asian resources that allows for lower than custom built prices. I guess I just miss the "action" of a premium steel fork in a fast descent, as both of the Ti bikes I ride have straight blades. I am ready to get back on one of my traditional steel bikes to just to feel that liveliness of the frame and fork.
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