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Old 07-13-22, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I have zero clue what the original post is about. Is the poster confused about appropriate tire pressure. Does he think tire pressure and bike cost are related, or does he think that the guy must be really fast because he uses a particular tire pressure? If the thread isn't about tire pressure, why is half the thread about tire pressure?

Is the poster unsure about what s/he is trying to say?

If the idea of the thread is that some bikes cost a lot .... um, wow, breakthrough realization. $14 K isn't really expensive for top-end machinery nowadays .... but so what?

Is the post about the OP judging some guy for buying what he wants? Is the OP jealous? Or just feeling superior for nor wanting some things and having different things?

Is there a point to any of this?

As far as I can tell, the "purpose" of the thread is to show us all that starry bra photo, which I did find amusing. Well played.
Not to mention that the headline is "bike shop."
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Originally Posted by jlat
I had to say something and that was "you must be the leader of the pack" he said "no just in the pack"
There's something to be said about humility and/or underselling and overdelivering. Most of the really fast guys that I've met are pretty chill. I think that, once you're fast enough to join the fast kids, it becomes readily apparent that, at any moment, you might cross paths with someone that could humble you.
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If the $100 bike in 1972 is the $700 bike of today...What's the $100 dollar bike of today worth?
$100.

Waddimis?
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Originally Posted by koala logs
I don't think buying an expensive bike is just to keep up in speed. It's more than that. Snobbery in different forms is real among "wannabe elites". It's deeply ingrained in the human culture not just in cycling.
As is envy.
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
$100.

Waddimis?
Freewheels, lack luster braking. Tubing that may or may not be butted. Shifting that would be better served by friction for all the good flimsy indexing on barrel-bottom components provide. Low grade garden hose tires. Galvanized cables. Coiled brake housing. Stamped steel chainrings. Essentially unsealed cup/cone wheel bearings. Generally low quality manufacturing tolerances throughout.

Maybe weight may be a bit less today, & galvanized spokes are a rarity nowadays but 30 pounds is pretty common even on todays $700 bikes. But the bulk of even that is mostly due to aluminum wheels over any other single factor.
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Coiled brake housing.
What's bad about coiled brake cable housing? It's very strong, and quite flexible.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
What's bad about coiled brake cable housing? It's very strong, and quite flexible.
On $700 bikes you'll find it. On $2000 bikes you'll find it. The same as on $100 bikes of yesteryear & $100 bikes of today.

On better bikes you'll find compression-less housing. The performance difference & feel is remarkable.
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On better bikes you'll find compression-less housing. The performance difference & feel is remarkable.
Absolutely.
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Old 07-13-22, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by base2
On $700 bikes you'll find it. On $2000 bikes you'll find it. The same as on $100 bikes of yesteryear & $100 bikes of today.

On better bikes you'll find compression-less housing. The performance difference & feel is remarkable.
Funny...I've never seen a bike come out of the box with compression-less housing. Not once.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
Funny...I've never seen a bike come out of the box with compression-less housing. Not once.
When I was building bikes at Bicycle Centres, I seem to remember the non hydraulic Specialized Diverges & some models of RockHopper's had Kevlar reinforced compressionless housing. It was the ones with dual piston mechanical disc brakes. IIRC a few Giant Revolts had them as well. Again, mechanical, dual piston disc...

Could've just been a case of the MFR just shipping what they had tho...Or only because that was what the caliper manufacturer required/recommended. But I know I built more than a few that came this way OEM straight outta the box.
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hello people: My words were just a bike shop experience. It seems that way every time I go to one it is. Is that hard to understand?
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Old 07-13-22, 07:17 PM
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You have an experience every time you go to a bike shop?
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When you go to the bike shop people do have different bikes and you will see different bikes. That is pretty common it is a bike shop they sell and service bikes if you didn't see different bikes I would be rather surprised unless the store only sold and worked on one specific bike which is rather uncommon. Also yes those bikes, those different bikes will have different pressures. whodathunkit?

Not really sure the point of your posts but I guess we don't have enough folks here posting stuff similar to this all the time so it is really helpful to have this stuff. This forum would be like a bike forum where we actually have more meaningful bike related conversations or at least chain lube threads.
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Old 07-13-22, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolla
As is envy.
Envy is deeply ingrained in human society "I want to have the same things they have...." So you'll find every reason you can find why you "need" it so you can go off buying it with a clear conscience.

If no one envies, the vast majority of recreational cyclists would be riding slow. No one would break a sweat trying to go faster when they're perfectly content and happy puttering around slowly. They'd be perfectly happy with <$1000 bikes.

Even motorists will be slower and much less distracted because they won't be trying to measure up with everyone in how many people they talk to while driving. The whole world would be a much better, safer, friendlier place if nobody envies. But everyone does and denies it and don't believe they do so the problem never ends.
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Originally Posted by koala logs
If no one envies, the vast majority of recreational cyclists would be riding slow. No one would break a sweat trying to go faster when they're perfectly content and happy puttering around slowly. Even motorists will be slower
If you want to posit that envy is the principal inspiration for speed, I'll happily leave you out on that limb.
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Originally Posted by koala logs
I actually never wrecked a bicycle yet. But I knew some who scrapped their lightweight carbon bike or the frame due to cracks following a simple fall that would not have harmed a much cheaper metal bike.

It's typically the more expensive weight weenie variety that is more susceptible to major damage. Not a problem if you can have it insured.
What original thoughts! I've never heard that this new carbon fiber stuff is really fragile and lightweight bikes are a total waste of money. I hope it creates a never-done-before discussion
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Originally Posted by koala logs
The fast guys are also riding ~$14,000 bikes. Most of them don't post in forums but you see them in groups.

A relative of mine broke the bank to buy one such bike "to keep up bla bla bla" but his wife left him. I don't think buying an expensive bike is just to keep up in speed. It's more than that. Snobbery in different forms is real among "wannabe elites". It's deeply ingrained in the human culture not just in cycling.

Ofc, it's not an issue if you can easily afford the bike that you're buying.
Actually it's not an issue if the purchaser simply wants to buy it. Life's short, dont' waste your time or credibility by making these sort of silly judgements.
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Originally Posted by jlat
It seems that way every time I go to one it is.
Not to be mean or anything .... but what is this sentences Supposed to say .... because right now it is a nonsensical string of random clauses.

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Is that hard to understand?
Most literally impossible to understand. But if you could explain it .......

What "seems"? What "way"? "Got to one" what? "It is" what?

I am not a grammar nazi but that is not a sentence .... or it is a mutant hybrid of three sentences, or something.
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I find a year or so break between visits here is salutary .... now I am just measuring time before the nonsense and lies kill my sense of humor and drive me away screaming .... or I get banned again.

Nice to see some of the the good ones are still active, though .... there is some knowledge and fair bit of twisted humor to be had here ... I thank certain posters for their input.
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Is this a sock? I smell a giant che.
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Originally Posted by Camilo
Actually it's not an issue if the purchaser simply wants to buy it. Life's short, dont' waste your time or credibility by making these sort of silly judgements.
I suppose, going back to the 1st post. If anyone wants to inflate more than 120 psi, they should start wearing ear protection.
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Originally Posted by koala logs
If anyone wants to inflate more than 120 psi, they should start wearing ear protection.
Scaredy-cat. You know not of which you speak.
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Originally Posted by koala logs
I suppose, going back to the 1st post. If anyone wants to inflate more than 120 psi, they should start wearing ear protection.
To say that a road tire will blow off a rim because it's inflated to 120psi or more is pretty funny. To say that someone needs hearing protection because of how loud that road tire would be if it blew off is ridiculous. Mtb tire maybe, road tire? Please.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
To say that a road tire will blow off a rim because it's inflated to 120psi or more is pretty funny. To say that someone needs hearing protection because of how loud that road tire would be if it blew off is ridiculous. Mtb tire maybe, road tire? Please.
I have no idea how loud it would actually be, just working off 3rd hand information. Never seen bike tire explode yet. I've had pinch flat before, it wasn't a boom, more like a loud hiss.
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hello people: That guy with that high-end bike was pretty cool as in talking he was there getting a new seat as the latest models of that bike had more padding. He is getting that latest seat for his S. I don't think he does much hands-on. I heard 90 lbs. is what road bikes use but I never gave one a squeeze. It's rock hard and the ride must not be nice but they must fly. I did ask if he wanted to get rid of his old seat but he said no.
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