paramount3

These tires have been great for me, running with tubes at 50-60 psi usually. They don't seem to be available now. What is a suitable replacement? The good features of the tire are: reasonable weight (I think about 470g each), extremely good puncture resistance, good ride, reasonable traction, reasonable lifetime. I don't want tubeless, and although I do ride on gravel/dirt, I want a touring/road tire, not a gravel/knobby tire. The actual width as-mounted is probably more like 35 mm. I could probably go 32-37 mm. Thanks in advance.

70sSanO

Not sure if this is a way you want to go, but…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vittoria-Ra...-127634-2357-0

John

CliffordK

René Herse has taken over the Compass tires. You might look to see if there is anything you like.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/prod...ts/tires/700c/


Vittoria has a bunch of tires they mark as "Randonneur". But, I think they are all heavier than the "Pro".

Perhaps for now snag the last pair off of E-Bay (and send the seller a note to see if he has more).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193548888287



The Vittoria Terreno Zero and Terreno Dry both are relatively light for the "tubeless" variety. I'm not sure why tubeless would be so much lighter than foldable.

The Clement X'Plor Ush is a lightweight tire, but I'm not sure it has the puncture protection you are looking for.

Lazyass

Panaracer Pasela PT folding bead version. They come in 32, 35, 38, whatever. The sidewall is really soft which makes for a smooth ride. The 38 supposedly weighs 450g.

shelbyfv

Panaracer GravelKing slick

chaadster

I use and like both the Pasela and GravelKing, but also look at Panaracer’s Ribmo in 35c, particularly if you don’t need the tread blocks but want a little more puncture resistance:

https://panaracer.com/en/products/ur...o_en/ribmo-en/

mstateglfr 

I had a set of Rando Pros on a touring bike and while they were perfectly fine, there are plenty of alternatives of equal value/quality/price.
I would buy some Panaracer GravelKing SS tires and call it good. File tread center, good weight, good rolling resistance, good durability, good price.
The 38mm weighs 410g and the 35mm weighs 380g.

43mm GK SS tires are on my gravel bike and they have been issueless, which is pretty much the best thing I can say about a tire. I wont hesitate to consider some in 38mm size for my commute/touring bike once my current tires on that bike are finished.

paramount3

Thanks for the quick and helpful responses. Sounds like Gravel King SS would be a good tire for me. Good reviews on the rolling resistance site also. A few more questions: Sounds as if I might want the "plus" version, since I would be willing to trade some weight/suppleness for increased puncture resistance. Does anybody have experience with the "plus" version Panaracers? Also, these are tubeless-ready tires ("TLC")--how do they perform with tubes? And do they tend to run true-to-width? Or at least would a Panaracer 35 be comparable to a Vittoria 35? Thanks for your patience.

chaadster

If you run a plastic tube like Schwalbe Aerothan, you’ll not only minimize rolling resistance and get near tubeless performance, you also save a lot of weight compared to standard butyl tubes and improve puncture resistance a lot. They’re pricey, but man, they “rep the bennies” good.

Actual tire width depends on internal width of your rims.

I don’t think there’s any good reason to worry about running tubeless spec tires tubed. Anyway, I happily run 26c GravelKing Tubeless tubed-up with Panaracer’s R’Air extralight butyl tubes.

ShannonM

You could run the tougher heavier tire on the rear, since rear flats suck way more than fronts. Plus, most of my flats are rears. I've never used the GravelKings, although they're probably going to be the tires for the 650b conversion I'll be doing on my Fuji this fall. They look rounder than the Paselas to my eye, and I've found that I really, really like a round tire. (Which isn't surprising, considering how much I love sewups.) To me, a really round tire rides a size bigger than a more u-shaped one of the same nominal size, and corners so much better that size is almost irrelevant. The Pasela is a pretty u-shaped tire, with a bit of a "peak" at the centerline. That said, Paselas are great tires... there's a reason that they've been the default choice for touring / commuting tires for like 3 decades now.

Panaracers have a reputation for running a bit small, which jibes with my experience.

--Shannon

Metieval

Schwalbe Marathon Supreme?

32, 35, and 40

Metieval

One of my favorite tubed tires.

ThermionicScott 

If you're not overly afraid of flats, consider the Panaracer Pari-Moto for your conversion... light, round, comfy, zippy, and come in right around 38mm. (Mine are actually a little bigger than that after a couple of years.) If my recall of events is correct, the Pari-Moto came first and the file-tread GravelKings are essentially a tougher version of them.

They come in a 127tpi version, but I haven't tried it yet, just the regular tan 67tpi version: https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...650b-road-tire