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Wish I I had not seen this. I had to look at my Domane SL5. Note if you remove the the brake disc ya can flip the wheel over. Deflating the tire also helps fit a pair of digital callipers. I’m shifted 1mm to the drive side.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
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Little stuff like this drives me nuts!!! But I am sure it's going to be OK...
I have not had any problems aligning my bikes but they are all old school. My neighbor brought over his Tri-suspension disk braked mountain bike that he gave a little twist to on his last ride. RATS!!! I did not know what to do. We were lucky. It was just his wheel out of true and we could handle that...
I have not had any problems aligning my bikes but they are all old school. My neighbor brought over his Tri-suspension disk braked mountain bike that he gave a little twist to on his last ride. RATS!!! I did not know what to do. We were lucky. It was just his wheel out of true and we could handle that...
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Wish I I had not seen this. I had to look at my Domane SL5. Note if you remove the the brake disc ya can flip the wheel over. Deflating the tire also helps fit a pair of digital callipers. I’m shifted 1mm to the drive side.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
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where are the two wheels from? Are they the stock wheels? What other bike are the used from?
I'm thinking it's the RD hanger being different than spec Shimano RD universal vs Sram universal vs Trek designed. ....or the wheel end caps (why is the rear brake bolt so far offset inward)
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...ger/p/W524188/
https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ac-drhg-mtb-a1
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/techn...erailleur.html
I'm thinking it's the RD hanger being different than spec Shimano RD universal vs Sram universal vs Trek designed. ....or the wheel end caps (why is the rear brake bolt so far offset inward)
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/e...ger/p/W524188/
https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ac-drhg-mtb-a1
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/techn...erailleur.html
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I recently looked at 2022 Checkpoint AL5 and SL5. I checked for the "offset". One thing I noted was that the chain stays on the ALR are not symmetrical. On the SL carbon frame they are.
I am going shopping again on Friday. Does anybody have comments between the 2022 ALR5 and the 2022 SLR5. Is the increased price worth the jump to the carbon frame? I mostly ride rail-trail and my long ride would be about 40 miles (Connellsville to Ohiopyle round trip on the GAP).
I am not a speed demon. I am not a lightweight rider. Everybody says carbon will not fail or crack if fit falls over. Will I need to treat the bike with kid gloves? The carbon SL does come with isospeed - a carbon seat post, and the down tube storage - I am sure I can stuff something in there.
I liked the "white" ALR5. Going to look at the Mercury Satin SL5. (I have seen the Red SL5 - I it looks good at first glance but also says "steal me" - at least my wife said that.)
I may go with two wheelsets- a slow and a fast. 38-42mm for casual rides with my wife and a narrow (32-38) tire for "dry day" longer solo faster rides. Also, for my future SIL to borrow when he is in town without his BMC Team Machine - he knocks off 50 miles on trail/road rides. He is neutral on the buy.
While shopping a few weeks ago one of the Trek store managers said he was upgrading his older model carbon checkpoint to a 2022 - he thought it was worth it because of the geometry change. He and another shopper (who also has a carbon Checkpoint with the Aeolus 3V wheels) both recommended the carbon over aluminum if I can swing the prices.
This may well be my "last" n+1 bike. (I say that today.)
I am going shopping again on Friday. Does anybody have comments between the 2022 ALR5 and the 2022 SLR5. Is the increased price worth the jump to the carbon frame? I mostly ride rail-trail and my long ride would be about 40 miles (Connellsville to Ohiopyle round trip on the GAP).
I am not a speed demon. I am not a lightweight rider. Everybody says carbon will not fail or crack if fit falls over. Will I need to treat the bike with kid gloves? The carbon SL does come with isospeed - a carbon seat post, and the down tube storage - I am sure I can stuff something in there.
I liked the "white" ALR5. Going to look at the Mercury Satin SL5. (I have seen the Red SL5 - I it looks good at first glance but also says "steal me" - at least my wife said that.)
I may go with two wheelsets- a slow and a fast. 38-42mm for casual rides with my wife and a narrow (32-38) tire for "dry day" longer solo faster rides. Also, for my future SIL to borrow when he is in town without his BMC Team Machine - he knocks off 50 miles on trail/road rides. He is neutral on the buy.
While shopping a few weeks ago one of the Trek store managers said he was upgrading his older model carbon checkpoint to a 2022 - he thought it was worth it because of the geometry change. He and another shopper (who also has a carbon Checkpoint with the Aeolus 3V wheels) both recommended the carbon over aluminum if I can swing the prices.
This may well be my "last" n+1 bike. (I say that today.)
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I had a steel Trek 850 MTB back in the 90's that had this same problem on the rear triangle.The rear wheel was a good 2-3mm off to one side. I just rode it, but it always bugged me a little bit. It was more noticeable with rim v-brakes, because the arms would be angled to one side and not symmetrical on the wheel. I always suspected that the frame got bent somehow, but there were no obvious signs of damage.
I've never noticed this issue on any other bikes I've owned. Even my Cannondale SuperX with the 6mm "ai offset" still has a perfectly centered rear wheel (ok... nothing's perfect, but <1mm). I did try to slot a regular dish rear wheel in there out of curiosity, and 6mm is a pretty big offset.
I've never noticed this issue on any other bikes I've owned. Even my Cannondale SuperX with the 6mm "ai offset" still has a perfectly centered rear wheel (ok... nothing's perfect, but <1mm). I did try to slot a regular dish rear wheel in there out of curiosity, and 6mm is a pretty big offset.
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I had a steel Trek 850 MTB back in the 90's that had this same problem on the rear triangle.The rear wheel was a good 2-3mm off to one side. I just rode it, but it always bugged me a little bit. It was more noticeable with rim v-brakes, because the arms would be angled to one side and not symmetrical on the wheel. I always suspected that the frame got bent somehow, but there were no obvious signs of damage.
I've never noticed this issue on any other bikes I've owned. Even my Cannondale SuperX with the 6mm "ai offset" still has a perfectly centered rear wheel (ok... nothing's perfect, but <1mm). I did try to slot a regular dish rear wheel in there out of curiosity, and 6mm is a pretty big offset.
I've never noticed this issue on any other bikes I've owned. Even my Cannondale SuperX with the 6mm "ai offset" still has a perfectly centered rear wheel (ok... nothing's perfect, but <1mm). I did try to slot a regular dish rear wheel in there out of curiosity, and 6mm is a pretty big offset.
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Wish I I had not seen this. I had to look at my Domane SL5. Note if you remove the the brake disc ya can flip the wheel over. Deflating the tire also helps fit a pair of digital callipers. I’m shifted 1mm to the drive side.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
Wonder if I can flip my crank over and replace a cassette sprocket with a brake disc.
Your living room looks like mine.
I'm still unclear: Did you conclude it is the frame vs. the wheel?
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My main point of the picture was to show one can flip the wheel if the brake disk is removed.
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Tough audience.
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I recently looked at 2022 Checkpoint AL5 and SL5. I checked for the "offset". One thing I noted was that the chain stays on the ALR are not symmetrical. On the SL carbon frame they are.
I am going shopping again on Friday. Does anybody have comments between the 2022 ALR5 and the 2022 SLR5. Is the increased price worth the jump to the carbon frame? I mostly ride rail-trail and my long ride would be about 40 miles (Connellsville to Ohiopyle round trip on the GAP).
I am not a speed demon. I am not a lightweight rider. Everybody says carbon will not fail or crack if fit falls over. Will I need to treat the bike with kid gloves? The carbon SL does come with isospeed - a carbon seat post, and the down tube storage - I am sure I can stuff something in there.
I liked the "white" ALR5. Going to look at the Mercury Satin SL5. (I have seen the Red SL5 - I it looks good at first glance but also says "steal me" - at least my wife said that.)
I may go with two wheelsets- a slow and a fast. 38-42mm for casual rides with my wife and a narrow (32-38) tire for "dry day" longer solo faster rides. Also, for my future SIL to borrow when he is in town without his BMC Team Machine - he knocks off 50 miles on trail/road rides. He is neutral on the buy.
While shopping a few weeks ago one of the Trek store managers said he was upgrading his older model carbon checkpoint to a 2022 - he thought it was worth it because of the geometry change. He and another shopper (who also has a carbon Checkpoint with the Aeolus 3V wheels) both recommended the carbon over aluminum if I can swing the prices.
This may well be my "last" n+1 bike. (I say that today.)
I am going shopping again on Friday. Does anybody have comments between the 2022 ALR5 and the 2022 SLR5. Is the increased price worth the jump to the carbon frame? I mostly ride rail-trail and my long ride would be about 40 miles (Connellsville to Ohiopyle round trip on the GAP).
I am not a speed demon. I am not a lightweight rider. Everybody says carbon will not fail or crack if fit falls over. Will I need to treat the bike with kid gloves? The carbon SL does come with isospeed - a carbon seat post, and the down tube storage - I am sure I can stuff something in there.
I liked the "white" ALR5. Going to look at the Mercury Satin SL5. (I have seen the Red SL5 - I it looks good at first glance but also says "steal me" - at least my wife said that.)
I may go with two wheelsets- a slow and a fast. 38-42mm for casual rides with my wife and a narrow (32-38) tire for "dry day" longer solo faster rides. Also, for my future SIL to borrow when he is in town without his BMC Team Machine - he knocks off 50 miles on trail/road rides. He is neutral on the buy.
While shopping a few weeks ago one of the Trek store managers said he was upgrading his older model carbon checkpoint to a 2022 - he thought it was worth it because of the geometry change. He and another shopper (who also has a carbon Checkpoint with the Aeolus 3V wheels) both recommended the carbon over aluminum if I can swing the prices.
This may well be my "last" n+1 bike. (I say that today.)
Now I have to go check if the rear wheel is centered in the frame.
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Some of you really study your bikes carefully. I just ride mine.
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Wife wants one, and we were test-riding $8K versions. (The SL5 is probably the most I would spend). I'm always curious because I want to fit the widest tire possible. More than 1mm is wasted. One of the best things about this bike is the tire clearance.
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Yeah, I'm just poking a little fun. If I saw an offset wheel, I'd suspect a dishing issue before I'd think of frame misalignment.
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Me, too, which is why I keep asking. Thankfully a dishing issue is much easier to deal with. (I finally calmed down and turned a spoke wrench.)
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I have a 2022 ALR5 checkpoint, mine is a 61, FWIW. Same color as yours…. Mine has the uneven spacing, however it’s not near as bad as yours. I am glad someone else noticed and posted, I just figured since it took 10 months for me to get my Checkpoint t, and there are literally none in stock near me, that I would just ride it a s suffer with the fact it doesn’t 100% meet my expectations. I had some serious frame and BB dents/ scratches from the factory/ store that got me a healthy percent off, so no way was I returning it. My light at the end of the tunnel? Next checkpoint redesign, I’ll buy a new bike😎. In the meantime, this bike beats my Giant Toughroad GX in so many ways, I really couldn’t be happier.
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Bummer to the OP. Didn't read all the responses but just measured my '22 ALR 5 and it is with +/- 0.5mm (tires on...not referencing the wheel directly) the best I can measure with my calipers.
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stock machine built wheels likely had the dish off a lil bit. Carbon wheelset time
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