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Old 10-25-21, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DDzBike
Dealing with people like this are what Kryptonite locks a made for
There might be though a problem if other person does not have a Kryptonite lock but have a gun.
Don't bring a Kryptonite lock to a gun fight!

Seriously, IMHO, the best is to avoid confrontation, you don't know who you are dealing with, including hardened criminals and people with mental problems, that will not even get prosecuted for crimes.
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Originally Posted by rowerek
There might be though a problem if other person does not have a Kryptonite lock but have a gun.
Don't bring a Kryptonite lock to a gun fight!

Seriously, IMHO, the best is to avoid confrontation, you don't know who you are dealing with, including hardened criminals and people with mental problems, that will not even get prosecuted for crimes.
Hey dude, what is that bulge in your cycling shorts?
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Frame pump to the spokes, then a sucker punch to help him up.
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Originally Posted by rowerek
There might be though a problem if other person does not have a Kryptonite lock but have a gun.
Don't bring a Kryptonite lock to a gun fight!

Seriously, IMHO, the best is to avoid confrontation, you don't know who you are dealing with, including hardened criminals and people with mental problems, that will not even get prosecuted for crimes.
Just a reminder that being a disagreeable and confrontational jerk is not necessarily a criminal offense. However, many of the suggested responses would constitute tampering with property or assault, both of which generally are criminal offenses.

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Old 10-27-21, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Just a reminder that being a disagreeable and confrontational jerk is not necessarily a criminal offense. However, many of the suggested responses would constitute tampering with property or assault, both of which generally are criminal offenses.

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threatening someone with physical harm verbally is a crime. It is an assault. You don't have to hit someone to assault them. Just threaten them with physical harm.
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Old 10-27-21, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gobicycling
threatening someone with physical harm verbally is a crime. It is an assault. You don't have to hit someone to assault them. Just threaten them with physical harm.
Of course. But according to the OP, there was no actual threat. The rider cut him off too close, stopped when he objected, got angry, said “what are you going to do about it?”, cursed him and rode off. None of that seems to constitute an actual threat of immediate physical harm.


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Old 10-29-21, 11:41 AM
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Our entire culture is on the edge of rage, it seems. Sorry to see people so angry while engaging a peaceful and happy activity. Good for you in your response.
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Old 10-29-21, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Of course. But according to the OP, there was no actual threat. The rider cut him off too close, stopped when he objected, got angry, said “what are you going to do about it?”, cursed him and rode off. None of that seems to constitute an actual threat of immediate physical harm.


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not in this case, but perhaps the information might be useful to others in the future, which is why I posted it.
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Old 10-29-21, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
it's assault. report it. call the local police station, tell the story, tell it twice. the call is recorded. don't wait for an opinion. it doesn't matter. you made the report it's on record. there's no discussion with the police. you reported the assault. if it happens again & it sounds like it already did, before you, & the other ppl report it, it's a pattern of behavior. a repeat offender. it's not your job to connect the dots, it the obligation of law enforcement. make the call. describe the couple & the bikes. explain it twice. thank them for listening. say goodbye
Yep. It is an assault, and should be reported. It's actionable.

Back when I spent a lot of time on MUPs, I considered carrying mace. I never did, but this is the kind of guy that needs some mace in the face.
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Enforce the rules

Enforce the rules. A motorized vehicle is not allowed on a bike path. I saw a young man going to fast around a curve in the bike path , he went on the grass ,, had to duck for a low branch,, nearly hit a couple on the sitting bench on the side. I am guessing his speed was in excess of 20mph, fat tires, yup you guessed it E-bike.
ps on a positive note , its the only time I saw this , for some reason, not to many people bike here .. so its usually very low traffic ..
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Old 10-30-21, 06:01 AM
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ppl resist new regulations, but often new technology requires it
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Old 10-30-21, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rossiny
Enforce the rules. A motorized vehicle is not allowed on a bike path. I saw a young man going to fast around a curve in the bike path , he went on the grass ,, had to duck for a low branch,, nearly hit a couple on the sitting bench on the side. I am guessing his speed was in excess of 20mph, fat tires, yup you guessed it E-bike.
ps on a positive note , its the only time I saw this , for some reason, not to many people bike here .. so its usually very low traffic ..
e-bikes requiring pedaling to activate are allowed on our bike paths.
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Old 10-30-21, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gobicycling
e-bikes requiring pedaling to activate are allowed on our bike paths.
they have a motor. I thought the whole idea of bike paths was that only non-motorized are allowed on them?
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Old 10-30-21, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by base2
Multi Use Path

Mostly it's a place for walkers with dogs on 10 foot leashes & joggers to run up the middle of & turn around to be hit face on when you try to pass them on the left as you are supposed to.

Not really a place for bicycles at any speed due to pedestrian flagerant disregard for posted rules of use.
That was my opinion early last year — after deciding to get some distance on the odometer. First I bought a bell, next I bought the loudest bell I could find. Waste of money, some just don't want to hear the bell! Later in the Summer I bought one of these



At 120 dB it certainly gets peoples' attention. BTW staying off the Rail Trail on the weekend helps too.
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Old 10-30-21, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rossiny
they have a motor. I thought the whole idea of bike paths was that only non-motorized are allowed on them?
we have a lot of e-bikes on our many hundreds of miles of trails. Many have no clue as to etiquette on bike paths. As long as they are pedal assist, they are allowed.
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Old 10-31-21, 07:33 AM
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The world has changed. Civility and lawfulness is an afterthought as the US descends into antinomianism.
Cycling is just a small fraction of what we see as a whole society.

I actively avoid MUPS unless it a Friday morning and no one is on them.
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Old 11-01-21, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gobicycling
we have a lot of e-bikes on our many hundreds of miles of trails. Many have no clue as to etiquette on bike paths. As long as they are pedal assist, they are allowed.

In many cases that's a result of them being new to cycling! Many considered cycling too strenuous prior to e-bikes hitting the market. As far as etiquette goes: just watch the ICE crowd on any given day, the behaviour just carries over. (Writes he who bought an e-gizmo to get peoples'attention)
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Old 11-02-21, 11:49 AM
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I was chatting with a cyclist who pulled up alongside me.

I said, "Hey! It was you turn to bring the pizza!"

He was wearing team kit and mentioned he started running front and rear video cameras after someone tried to mow him down in a roundabout.

Since then I've had three similiar episodes in roundabouts, including one this morning, despite being extra careful.

So watch your six.
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Old 11-05-21, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by leftthread
I was chatting with a cyclist who pulled up alongside me.

I said, "Hey! It was you turn to bring the pizza!"

He was wearing team kit and mentioned he started running front and rear video cameras after someone tried to mow him down in a roundabout.

Since then I've had three similiar episodes in roundabouts, including one this morning, despite being extra careful.

So watch your six.
Learning how to drive in roundabouts and caring about professional soccer are two things Americans will never master.
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Old 11-08-21, 03:33 PM
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In my area the problem on the bike paths are people who are on their cell phones and walking along mindless of bicyclists along with women with their strollers who stop in the middle of the path to chat. E-bikes are not a problem at all. A jerk on a bike path is rare and only wish fewer such people were allowed to wear a uniform and a badge and a gun.
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