Add a Mid-Atlantic sub-forum
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Maryland, DC, Delaware, WV, and VA all need to be lumped together ......
NJ, NY and PA = Northeast
IMHO, of course.... ;^)
Maryland, DC, Delaware, WV, and VA all need to be lumped together ......
NJ, NY and PA = Northeast
IMHO, of course.... ;^)
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and sorry, but PA and especially philly are mid atlantic. It's the keystone state for craps sake! thats the middle of the east coast, hence mid atlantic.
and sorry, but PA and especially philly are mid atlantic. It's the keystone state for craps sake! thats the middle of the east coast, hence mid atlantic.
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We don't need a "fix all" solution, because what we have doesn't need fixing. I see no reason to start dividing up territories when, in the end we will just have to visit more forums and, some of these will have very little activity. I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom of the current page will end up with posts well over a year old. I would rather see one forum labeled "East Coast" than a bunch of sub forums. The forums need to stay active otherwise they stale quickly which leads to even less activity. Then we miss good ride opportunities because they are not posted.
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It might make sense to re-title Northeast to New England, since the people in those states are very particular about which states carry that label. It is clearly defined, and once you cross out of it, you are no longer there... Then the rest of what is currently called Northeast, would join VA, MD and DC as Mid-Atlantic.
PA is definitely seen by most people as Mid-Atlantic. As is New Jersey (which tends to be directly east of PA).
I definitely think that the east coast is far too homogeneous in the regional forums as compared to the west coast, where California gets 2 forums for 1 state (although admittedly it is a huge state).
I do understand there will always be issues with the people that live at the border regions, but frankly, right now, most things I read about in the regional forum that should apply to me are about NY City (which will still exist with a new division) or about New England, which is a 5-6 hour drive away.
I can identify by listening a good 3 or 4 different accents within the area covered by Northeast Regonal forum. Is there any other regional forum within the US where this could happen?
PA is definitely seen by most people as Mid-Atlantic. As is New Jersey (which tends to be directly east of PA).
I definitely think that the east coast is far too homogeneous in the regional forums as compared to the west coast, where California gets 2 forums for 1 state (although admittedly it is a huge state).
I do understand there will always be issues with the people that live at the border regions, but frankly, right now, most things I read about in the regional forum that should apply to me are about NY City (which will still exist with a new division) or about New England, which is a 5-6 hour drive away.
I can identify by listening a good 3 or 4 different accents within the area covered by Northeast Regonal forum. Is there any other regional forum within the US where this could happen?
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+1, and also to the idea that there are New England, Mid-Atlantic, and Southeast regions along the East Coast. I've only been here eight years, but it's fairly evident already.
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I can live with PA as "mid-atlantic".....my neighbor to the north!
Maybe you could "split" Pa and split Va?.....
Maybe you could "split" Pa and split Va?.....
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i am fully in support of this idea, as i frequent new york, live in philadelphia, and have parents retiring in delaware, and will continue to be biking all of it.
i am fully in support of this idea, as i frequent new york, live in philadelphia, and have parents retiring in delaware, and will continue to be biking all of it.
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+1 Metro philly here.
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VA is almost always considered Mid-Atlantic. That's where I would look for it first anyway. I always thought these forums were weird in the way they were categorized.
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+1 for Mid-Atlantic forum
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+1. Listen to the weatherman, he always describes DC metro area as " mid-atlantic ". I feel it would be much less confusing.
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Tom, we already had a thread where we brought up all the problems w/the current set-up, so I'm not sure why we need to repeat them. Having said that: Obviously, any state borders you draw will be at least a little arbitrary and have the potential to split off groups who think they should be together. The main point is to divide the regions so that you're not splitting up a well-defined metro area into >1 region. That's the problem you have now: it's a little ridiculous to have DC and its VA suburbs in different forums. Admittedly, it's complicated to divide things up in the northeast. Metro NYC includes 3 states - NY, CT, and NJ - so you need to keep those states together. But, NJ & PA have to be together so you're not splitting up metro Philly. But then some people will say you need to keep MD and PA together, and MD needs to be w/DC and VA, and all of a sudden you've got CT and VA in the same region.
I have previously proposed, and will suggest again, a metro DC forum. This solves the current problem of DC's riders not knowing which forum to post in, which is (in my obviously unbiased opinion) the single biggest problem w/the current set-up. (As noted previously, metro DC is home to several hundred BF members, so there's certainly enough people to justify a separate forum.) This also avoids the problem of having to decide which states do (and do not) qualify as "mid-atlantic" (WV? PA? NC? - See my earlier comments about what happens if you split PA from NJ, etc.) Let individual riders decide whether they are close enough to DC to post in the metro DC forum. E.g. - if you live in WV w/in shouting range of DC and want to post something about a 'local' DC ride, you'll know where to do it, even though most of the state probably does not consider itself part of the DC area.
I have previously proposed, and will suggest again, a metro DC forum. This solves the current problem of DC's riders not knowing which forum to post in, which is (in my obviously unbiased opinion) the single biggest problem w/the current set-up. (As noted previously, metro DC is home to several hundred BF members, so there's certainly enough people to justify a separate forum.) This also avoids the problem of having to decide which states do (and do not) qualify as "mid-atlantic" (WV? PA? NC? - See my earlier comments about what happens if you split PA from NJ, etc.) Let individual riders decide whether they are close enough to DC to post in the metro DC forum. E.g. - if you live in WV w/in shouting range of DC and want to post something about a 'local' DC ride, you'll know where to do it, even though most of the state probably does not consider itself part of the DC area.
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i don't post in any regional forums because i have no idea where it would a) be most appropriate and b) get the most views.
I say go with the usa cycling regional breakdown for collegiate racing:
northeast - me, nh, vt, ny, nj, pa, ma, ri, de
mid atlantic - md, dc, va, wv, nc
southeast - tn, sc, ga, al, ms, fl
I say go with the usa cycling regional breakdown for collegiate racing:
northeast - me, nh, vt, ny, nj, pa, ma, ri, de
mid atlantic - md, dc, va, wv, nc
southeast - tn, sc, ga, al, ms, fl
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How about -- any place where they say y'all is southeast; anywhere they put an R on the end of the word China is new england; and what's in between is mid atlantic.
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New England, Mid-Atlantic, Southeast regions please.
This is so easy and very common.
It makes NO sense for DC to be split into two regions.
New England, Mid-Atlantic, Southeast regions please.
This is so easy and very common.
It makes NO sense for DC to be split into two regions.
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I don't post in any regional forums because I have no idea where it would a) be most appropriate and b) get the most views.
I say go with the USA Cycling regional breakdown for collegiate racing:
Northeast - ME, NH, VT, NY, NJ, PA, MA, RI, DE
Mid Atlantic - MD, DC, VA, WV, NC
Southeast - TN, SC, GA, AL, MS, FL
I say go with the USA Cycling regional breakdown for collegiate racing:
Northeast - ME, NH, VT, NY, NJ, PA, MA, RI, DE
Mid Atlantic - MD, DC, VA, WV, NC
Southeast - TN, SC, GA, AL, MS, FL
If we can't have a straight-up DC thread, then I think this makes the most sense.
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I'm from No Va and also ride weekends in Md. I'm interested in a mid Atlantic forum to find rides and races as well as riding partners/groups.