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Old 07-23-10, 11:52 AM
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Therapeutic Use Exemptions

Has anyone had to file one to USADA? There is a high likelihood that I will have to even though I will never be considered a national caliber athlete and I will most likely never be tested. But I will probably be taking a "banned at all times" drug.
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Originally Posted by cat4ever
Has anyone had to file one to USADA? There is a high likelihood that I will have to even though I will never be considered a national caliber athlete and I will most likely never be tested. But I will probably be taking a "banned at all times" drug.
asthma?
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1 - hope whatever you're treating inst too serious
2 - if it's asthma, most (check to be sure) dont require a TUE, but rather a declaration of use, which is a much simpler streamlined process
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It's not asthma. It's no big deal but I will be potentially taking a banned substance.
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If you've got a prescription for it, and you're not doing NRC Pro 1,2 races, or Nationals, I wouldn't bother. The chance you ever get tested would have to be truely deminimis.

On the other hand, the chance the yank you around, make the process a pain in the ass, and maybe even deny it would appear to be significant.
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^^^ Unless you are doing a national-level event, there is pretty much 0 chance it will matter. All that really matters is whether you can live with yourself and your sense of fair play for whatever you are doing. If it is something that you need for your health, and something that a doctor prescribes for you in good faith, that should not even remotely be an issue.
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God damn cheater. You'll do anything, wont you?

Anyway, I had to send one a few years ago for my Asthma and it was simple. The paperwork was on their site and my doc just had to sign it.
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Did you see the Low T commercials during the tour?
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Originally Posted by Apus^2
Did you see the Low T commercials during the tour?
Low normal hormone readings do not justify a TUE. So the Low T diagnosis won't work.
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Originally Posted by cslone
God damn cheater. You'll do anything, wont you?

Anyway, I had to send one a few years ago for my Asthma and it was simple. The paperwork was on their site and my doc just had to sign it.
now if only the other 200 guys w/ inhalers in the parking lot would send theirs in
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Low normal hormone readings do not justify a TUE. So the Low T diagnosis won't work.
What about below bottom of scale?
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I autologous blood doped last week. Hct went from 22 to 28. I was also on a S-load of alubuterol. Pretty much clean right now, unless a beta-blocker is considered a PED. I don't think anyone is going to care.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
I autologous blood doped last week. Hct went from 22 to 28. I was also on a S-load of alubuterol. Pretty much clean right now, unless a beta-blocker is considered a PED. I don't think anyone is going to care.
But you have a bionic heart now.


Cheater.
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This thread pertains to my interests, since it's looking likely I'm going to need another shot of 'roids in my knee before the Winter is done.

In fact just this morning I was browsing USADA, and found that their documentation is much improved from last year when I had the same questions.

One thing I couldn't find an answer to: how do they define "in competition" vs "out of competition" ?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
If you've got a prescription for it, and you're not doing NRC Pro 1,2 races, or Nationals, I wouldn't bother. The chance you ever get tested would have to be truely deminimis.

On the other hand, the chance the yank you around, make the process a pain in the ass, and maybe even deny it would appear to be significant.
After what I saw last year..... You are incorrect.
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Originally Posted by wfrogge
After what I saw last year..... You are incorrect.
So where are they testing, other than Nationals and NRC events? I've never seen it. Not saying it can't happen, just I've never seen it.
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I thought one of the Florida races had testing this past year? I know they bailed out of the state crit testing, but I thought maybe they surprised people at one of the south Florida events?
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
This thread pertains to my interests, since it's looking likely I'm going to need another shot of 'roids in my knee before the Winter is done.

In fact just this morning I was browsing USADA, and found that their documentation is much improved from last year when I had the same questions.

One thing I couldn't find an answer to: how do they define "in competition" vs "out of competition" ?
I've never been tested but I believe that "in competition" means at an event (either as a podium finisher or randomly) and "out of competition" means at your home where the unannounced drug tests happen. Many pro and Olympic athletes are subject to this. Lance Armstrong tweets about it all the time. Everyone is subject to in competition tests at events that are recognized by UCI like Pro/Elite/Jr/Masters/Paralympic/etc.. Nationals. I don't know what determines who is subject to out of competition tests. But, if you were on that list you'd know.

I had a conversation with a US Paralympic athlete that has to do something like: Declare that she will be at her home for a certain hour during certain days to be available for unannounced tests whether they happen or not. Then if she misses a certain number of visits by not being there (or not answering the door) it counts as a positive result.

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Originally Posted by carleton
Lots of words
This is my interpretation of it too.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
So where are they testing, other than Nationals and NRC events? I've never seen it. Not saying it can't happen, just I've never seen it.
There was an event in Ashville NC this year (week of Masters Nats) where several riders were tested by USADA. Rumor was that an entire team was targeted due to a "tip".
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I think that's a good thing. I wonder however, whether there's enough money to do enough to make much difference.
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interesting... in a quick scan I didn't see anything prohibiting liposuction...
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I wonder if they can target 1/2 of a state...
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Old thread I made - awesome. So I am taking not one, but two banned substances per doctor's orders and prescription. I wonder if by admitting this I am subject to bannination? Did not get TUE.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I think that's a good thing. I wonder however, whether there's enough money to do enough to make much difference.

A lot of guys have been complaining to USAC and USADA about local racers that are "on" stuff to the point they are taking action.
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