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Old 12-14-21, 07:27 PM
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Strange engraving on Sunshine hub

Was just cleaning this nice Sunshine high flange hub up a bit and noticed it has some strange engraving on the flange. It looks homemade to me but I can't think of what the pattern might indicate. Any ideas?


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wonder if it might be a personal identification number as for a driver's license or military identification?

BTW - the round flange holes of the hub are a helpful dating aid; iirc they ended ~1973

there is an earlier generation of these with the small round flange holes where the dustcaps are press fit to the cones rather than to the shell - they can be a bit of a pain to work on...

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I remember reading that folks used to carve their SSN's into their bike frames as a theft recovery aid (long before identity theft!), so maybe that's what the last 9 digits are? No idea what B200 would refer to.
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My guess is also driver's license.
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I never would have thought of drivers license! That does make sense though given most of them start with a letter.

It's an interesting idea to put it on the hub, seeing as that is an easily removable part of the bike. But I guess it is a little more obscure that way too, and definitely something you would need to know was there
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Originally Posted by juvela
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wonder if it might be a personal identification number as for a driver's license or military identification?

BTW - the round flange holes of the hub are a helpful dating aid; iirc they ended ~1973

there is an earlier generation of these with the small round flange holes where the dustcaps are press fit to the cones rather than to the shell - they can be a bit of a pain to work on...

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Thanks for the extra bit of background! The hub is surprisingly smooth and seems well built, even if it isn't a high end hub from the era.
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Originally Posted by morri869
I never would have thought of drivers license! That does make sense though given most of them start with a letter.

It's an interesting idea to put it on the hub, seeing as that is an easily removable part of the bike. But I guess it is a little more obscure that way too, and definitely something you would need to know was there
I remember being told to use a DL number because it was easier for police to connect it to the owner. SSN had to go through the Social Security Administration and they did not like to divulge the information.
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That is the exact pattern used for a Michigan driver license.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
I remember being told to use a DL number because it was easier for police to connect it to the owner. SSN had to go through the Social Security Administration and they did not like to divulge the information.
I wish I had a dollar for every tool I own with my SS number engraved on it. I'd spend it all on bicycles. In the day our shop teachers told us to use the SS number to mark our tools. Sadly as it turns out, in the shop these days too many don't respect someone's tools enough to return them no matter how they are marked.
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In this day and age of identity theft I'd like to point out that engraving social security numbers onto anything that might be stolen is not a good idea.

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While I agree that your social security number isn’t something you want advertised these days, you couldn’t see a reason against it so much in ’81. But then again I look back I don’t see any reason we thought it would be a theft deterrent. The only thing I vaguely remember is horror stories about entire Kennedy stacks being stolen but those were probably just that, stories.
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During my college days ('78-'82) all our grades were posted by our S.S.#'s on the bulletin boards outside the classrooms.
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Originally Posted by gearbasher
During my college days ('78-'82) all our grades were posted by our S.S.#'s on the bulletin boards outside the classrooms.
Until about 2002, every college/university ID I had (and I had a lot as a student at various levels and then as faculty) had our SS# as our ID #s printed on the card.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Until about 2002, every college/university ID I had (and I had a lot as a student at various levels and then as faculty) had our SS# as our ID #s printed on the card.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure my first driver license number, issued in VA in the 80's, was my SSN.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Until about 2002, every college/university ID I had (and I had a lot as a student at various levels and then as faculty) had our SS# as our ID #s printed on the card.
When I was in the military in the 1980s, it was the same. I had a stencil to paint my number on everything I owned.

Until a few years ago, the nuclear plant where I work used the SSN for dosimetry issue. When Identity theft started getting more common, they finally got enough complaints that they changed to another system.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
When I was in the military in the 1980s, it was the same. I had a stencil to paint my number on everything I owned.

Until a few years ago, the nuclear plant where I work used the SSN for dosimetry issue. When Identity theft started getting more common, they finally got enough complaints that they changed to another system.
We were still using SSN on everything in the Army when I got out in 1994.
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Cool looking hubs. I would polish the hell -- er etching -- out of them.
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