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Old 10-10-20, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I'm just oblivious sometimes. At least I can laugh at myself about it.



Gee, I wonder why this drivetrain is so noisy all the time...
I was gonna suggest these but they're 9sp not 8sp.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I was gonna suggest these but they're 9sp not 8sp.

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The only reason I noticed was because the compact double installation did not go well, so I had to put this one back on and noticed the light gap when tuning the FD.

With the compact double on a 113mm BB spindle the FD couldn't reach far enough out to shift in to the big ring, and the Q factor ended up somewhere in the 160mm range

Unfortunately I'm not sure if I can actually find a spindle that will make that crank work on this bike, the shortest I can find is 107mm, and I'm pretty sure that's the bottom limit for 68mm BB shell widths.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I'm just oblivious sometimes. At least I can laugh at myself about it.



Gee, I wonder why this drivetrain is so noisy all the time...
When I upgraded the Ritchey from 8 speeds to 10, I kept the old chainrings - till TWICE the chain fell between the rings for a second or two. Ordered the 7700 inner chainring that moves it closer to the outer, but then also ordered a new outer. I was AMAZED when I put them on, along with a new cassette, and a new chain, how silent the drivetrain became and how the shifting got even better.
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Originally Posted by abshipp


The only reason I noticed was because the compact double installation did not go well, so I had to put this one back on and noticed the light gap when tuning the FD.

With the compact double on a 113mm BB spindle the FD couldn't reach far enough out to shift in to the big ring, and the Q factor ended up somewhere in the 160mm range

Unfortunately I'm not sure if I can actually find a spindle that will make that crank work on this bike, the shortest I can find is 107mm, and I'm pretty sure that's the bottom limit for 68mm BB shell widths.
Phil Wood makes them down to 103, which is what I used on the Ritchey, since the 7410 crank takes a 103.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Phil Wood makes them down to 103, which is what I used on the Ritchey, since the 7410 crank takes a 103.
Assuming it's symmetric, that would still only move the chainrings in 5mm. I think that specific crank is a lost cause.

Regarding your comment about going from 8-10 speeds, I have been wondering if I would need to get 11s specific rings for whatever crank I use. Does the inner ring always define the spacing? That would be great if so.
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Originally Posted by abshipp


The only reason I noticed was because the compact double installation did not go well, so I had to put this one back on and noticed the light gap when tuning the FD.

With the compact double on a 113mm BB spindle the FD couldn't reach far enough out to shift in to the big ring, and the Q factor ended up somewhere in the 160mm range

Unfortunately I'm not sure if I can actually find a spindle that will make that crank work on this bike, the shortest I can find is 107mm, and I'm pretty sure that's the bottom limit for 68mm BB shell widths.
Campy has 102. There's a chance that crank would bottom out on a Campy though.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Campy has 102. There's a chance that crank would bottom out on a Campy though.
That's a good point. I have no reason to believe that this is not a JIS taper crank.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Assuming it's symmetric, that would still only move the chainrings in 5mm. I think that specific crank is a lost cause.

Regarding your comment about going from 8-10 speeds, I have been wondering if I would need to get 11s specific rings for whatever crank I use. Does the inner ring always define the spacing? That would be great if so.
I don't know. I know that Shimano said you can run 10 speeds on an 8 speed crankset but you needed the new inner chainring that shifts the teeth close to the outer ring. Since I put on the new rings, I've had zero miss-shifts into the middle of nowhere.
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I used to have a poor opinion of grits as a food source until I lived on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi. I grew to love grits and now miss it for breakfast.
Yeah grits was another culture shock item I experienced in Tx. Also chicken fried steaks. Seems I was constantly saying WTF when I first arrived down there. I still don’t eat grits.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
wut is happening?
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Anyone else notice how pop commercials have gone downhill since the '80s?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK8iJ5CQleY
Fixed.
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Next time you think your job sucks....I just saw a guy riding a bike pulling a sign board that reads “YOUR AD HERE.” Rolling billboards. Just what we need.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
wut is happening?

Fixed.
Chain is very worn and the teeth of the chainring no longer mesh with the chain.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
All I can think of is cheeburger cheeburger cheeburger.

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Originally Posted by abshipp
I'm just oblivious sometimes. At least I can laugh at myself about it.

Gee, I wonder why this drivetrain is so noisy all the time...
It's a mystery.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Next time you think your job sucks....I just saw a guy riding a bike pulling a sign board that reads “YOUR AD HERE.” Rolling billboards. Just what we need.
Good application for an ebike.
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My parents grew up in Pittsburgh, but they shed a lot of their "Yinzerisms" - like they never said "Yinz", for example. Dad would sometimes say "Arn" for iron, or just a hint of 'warsh' for wash, but that was it. It might have been protective coloration in the small town they moved to after the War - everyone's related to each other and they take a dim view of strangers.
I can't figure out how to paste the results. I got three cities within 100 miles of where I live in central Calif. My parents and grandparents are all from Missouri, and I still say "warsh" to clean my clothes, and "tollet" when I use the bathroom.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Anyone else notice how pop commercials have gone downhill since the 50s?


https://youtu.be/qNdjLqFKyDI
I remember Faygo red pop and frosh. Good times.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Next time you think your job sucks....I just saw a guy riding a bike pulling a sign board that reads “YOUR AD HERE.” Rolling billboards. Just what we need.
he gets paid to ride a bike. What's not to like?
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I need to decide which day to do some messy tyre work. To do:

Move plus bike front tyre to the rear, put new plus bike front tyre on.

Replace rear tyre on double boinger 26er

Replace a spoke on the Raleigh So bummed that I broke the spoke after topping off tubeless goop a couple weeks ago. That tyre was bone dry before the re-up.
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In Eastern Pennyslvania, it's soda. In Western Pennsylvania it's pop. I remember going into the Breezewood Rest Stop on the PA Turnpike, roughly in the middle, and I swear to god the machine said "Soda Pop".
Everybody that's read S. E. Hinton knows it's Sodapop.
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Time to ride. Watch out, I may take over the leaderboard! (evil laugh)
And after all that you're 3rd - sad!

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
he gets paid to ride a bike. What's not to like?
Most likely the pay, and riding around at 6 mph on a Saturday in an area where he’s not likely going to expose the service to anyone who might use it.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
In Eastern Pennyslvania, it's soda. In Western Pennsylvania it's pop. I remember going into the Breezewood Rest Stop on the PA Turnpike, roughly in the middle, and I swear to god the machine said "Soda Pop".
I was in Breezewood last month during my tour. It’s the “Town of Motels.”
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I was in Breezewood last month during my tour. It’s the “Town of Motels.”
Yeah, that's Breezewood. Junction of I-70 and the Turnpike. Good stopping place maybe 3 hours out of either Pixburgh or Fluffya.
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Earlier in the year, I started supplementing with a vegan, chocolate peanut butter cup protein powder. Last week, I heard about and picked up some oat milk that is readily available and that froths really well (Oatly Full Fat). Today, I mixed the two. zOMG. So. So. Good.
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