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Old 02-13-15, 03:17 AM
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UGGGGG....I fat-fingered something and the Road Cog selection screen isn't showing the right values. If you selected the right values before, you are fine. They are already stored in your preferences.

I've issued an update and asked for review to be expedited.

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I've issued an update and asked for review to be expedited.
They listened! The update is already available. Thx
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Old 02-13-15, 04:06 PM
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They listened! The update is already available. Thx
Thanks for spotting my error!
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Hi, guys.

So, I'm coming up for air after a long time. I'm about to start working on new features for the Track Cycling Stopwatch app as well as pruning things that you guys may not be using.

On deck:
- Saving data in the app
- Changing some layout things.
- Refactoring the code (optimizing)

If you have any feedback after having used it a while, let me know.
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
Hi, guys.

So, I'm coming up for air after a long time. I'm about to start working on new features for the Track Cycling Stopwatch app as well as pruning things that you guys may not be using.

On deck:
- Saving data in the app
- Changing some layout things.
- Refactoring the code (optimizing)

If you have any feedback after having used it a while, let me know.
First of all I want thank you for a great app, use it in training for timing flying efforts and the cadence and speed calculator saves a lot of time when checking if the gearing was right. In races I use it when calculating what gear to use.

The option to save data in the app would be great, lost the data a few times when I messed up the emailing.
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Old 06-15-15, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bulldogsprinter View Post
First of all I want thank you for a great app, use it in training for timing flying efforts and the cadence and speed calculator saves a lot of time when checking if the gearing was right. In races I use it when calculating what gear to use.

The option to save data in the app would be great, lost the data a few times when I messed up the emailing.
That's great to hear! I'm glad you and your friends like it.

It's been out so long that I haven't heard from anyone in a long time. So, I don't know what people think.
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
That's great to hear! I'm glad you and your friends like it.

It's been out so long that I haven't heard from anyone in a long time. So, I don't know what people think.
It's a great tool. When comparing riders and efforts one can see the different types of riders. I was doing flying 600m efforts with the national kilo champ, and we did identical times, but the way we did it was completely different. I have a better kick and hit my top speed faster doing the first 200m faster the second 200m I keep more or less the same speed and then fade for a slower last 200m, He does a negative split for the first 400m going quite a bit faster on the second 200m compared to the first and then he also starts to fade. Just timing the whole thing wouldn't have showed this difference. When I put in our different gearing it is also fast to compare our cadence.

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Old 06-15-15, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulldogsprinter View Post
It's a great tool. When comparing riders and efforts one can see the different types of riders. I was doing flying 600m efforts with the national kilo champ, and we did identical times, but the way we did it was completely different. I have a better kick and hit my top speed faster doing the first 200m faster the second 200m I keep more or less the same speed and then fade for a slower last 200m, He does a negative split for the first 400m going quite a bit faster on the second 200m compared to the first and then he also starts to fade. Just timing the whole thing wouldn't have showed this difference. When I put in our different gearing it is also fast to compare our cadence.
Wow! That's great to see that you guys are getting the most out of the tools! That's exactly why I made them. This is very encouraging.
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Old 10-19-15, 02:40 PM
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Hey, all. I've issued an update to 2 of my apps in the app store. If you have them, you should have gotten the update notice.

I can't really promote them here, but I can talk about them. If someone else wants to link to them, I won't be mad
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Id be happy to link the android app, its coming out soon right? RIGHT?!


I was thinking about this lately, and here are some things that would make my life easier when I am coaching:

-a way to track multiple efforts and people back to back. I find myself scrambling down numbers as I have 6 different riders doing pursuit back to back, and then trying to figure out who was who. so maybe a way to have back to back stop watches but it saves the splits auto magically somehow. so like a recall function, that recalls sets.

-another thing Im running into is track time indoors is tight since its expensive. so maybe a way to integrate a schedule into the app with reminders. so you could be doing a stop watch and at the top get a reminder that theres only X time left in the session, or maybe a 30mns in a reminder to move on to Y


Probably less of a problem on outdoor tracks where you have all the time in the world, but at $250/hr for the track we don't waste a minute haha
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Old 10-19-15, 09:22 PM
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Id be happy to link the android app, its coming out soon right? RIGHT?!
Hahaha, I asked a buddy of mine to make one but he didn't want to. I told him that I'd give him all of my algorithms and everything. Sorry.

I was thinking about this lately, and here are some things that would make my life easier when I am coaching:

-a way to track multiple efforts and people back to back. I find myself scrambling down numbers as I have 6 different riders doing pursuit back to back, and then trying to figure out who was who. so maybe a way to have back to back stop watches but it saves the splits auto magically somehow. so like a recall function, that recalls sets.
My app does something similar. At the end of an effort, you can email out a table with the split of each lap including split time, total time, avg speed for the lap, avg cadence for the lap, and distance traveled. Most coaches simply email it to the athlete right after and whoever else needs to see it.

I've strongly considered saving the data in the app. But, that's a decent amount of work and I just don't have the time to sit down and bang it out and test it.

-another thing Im running into is track time indoors is tight since its expensive. so maybe a way to integrate a schedule into the app with reminders. so you could be doing a stop watch and at the top get a reminder that theres only X time left in the session, or maybe a 30mns in a reminder to move on to Y
I could make this, but in iOS it would probably be easier to hold the Home Button and say, "Set a Timer for 30 minutes." or "Remind me to switch to standing starts at 3PM." and Siri will set those alerts.
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Old 10-21-15, 11:16 AM
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Hahaha, I asked a buddy of mine to make one but he didn't want to. I told him that I'd give him all of my algorithms and everything. Sorry.



My app does something similar. At the end of an effort, you can email out a table with the split of each lap including split time, total time, avg speed for the lap, avg cadence for the lap, and distance traveled. Most coaches simply email it to the athlete right after and whoever else needs to see it.

I've strongly considered saving the data in the app. But, that's a decent amount of work and I just don't have the time to sit down and bang it out and test it.



I could make this, but in iOS it would probably be easier to hold the Home Button and say, "Set a Timer for 30 minutes." or "Remind me to switch to standing starts at 3PM." and Siri will set those alerts.

I'll write the Android version if you need a dev (for free, because I'm a cyclist nerd). I've written iOS and android apps..send me a PM.
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I'll write the Android version if you need a dev (for free, because I'm a cyclist nerd). I've written iOS and android apps..send me a PM.
Let me think about it for a sec.
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Originally Posted by gtrob View Post
Id be happy to link the android app, its coming out soon right? RIGHT?!
BTW, it will work on any iPod touch that can run iOS 8. Previous and current generation iPod touches can do that.
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Old 10-23-15, 01:43 AM
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Still going strong for me. Used it at Oceania Champs to do TTs and riders on both sides of the track. After using it to give IP splits to riders and sending reports to riders and coaches. Excellent tool!!!
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Still going strong for me. Used it at Oceania Champs to do TTs and riders on both sides of the track. After using it to give IP splits to riders and sending reports to riders and coaches. Excellent tool!!!
Thanks! That's great to hear!
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Hi,

Had to register to the Bikeforum just to post a question to this great thread :-)

Would it be possible to somehow connect tape switches to your app, or any other timing device ? I'm looking an easy and cheap way to have accurate timing for F200 and other short/fast efforts.

//Tommi
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Hi,

Had to register to the Bikeforum just to post a question to this great thread :-)

Would it be possible to somehow connect tape switches to your app, or any other timing device ? I'm looking an easy and cheap way to have accurate timing for F200 and other short/fast efforts.

//Tommi
Hi, Tommi. Welcome to the forum!

I've tossed around dozens of ideas like that to make a system where a user can time themselves and none of them are really feasible with an iPhone and modern tech.

The easiest and cheapest ways are to:

- Setup a tripod such that your phone can see the 200M start and finish lines and make a video of your run. Then time the replay of yourself. This works for any distance really.
- Have someone time you.
- Use a speedometer and record your max speed. Max speed is directly related to your 200M time. If max is going up, 200M time is faster. This method won't give you a time, but it will let you know if you are getting faster or not. This method also works for other short sprint efforts, like standing half lap, flying lap, etc...

The reason why tape strips aren't feasible is because:
- Tape strips require installation.
- They also require a transmitter of some sort (probably custom made).
- The transmission protocol to the iPhone will likely be Bluetooth LE which works when it works...but doesn't when it doesn't. It's known to drop connections.
- Bluetooth LE has a limited range of something like 100m. Riding on the track would/could put the rider on the edge of the effective range causing connection issues.

Thanks for the note. I'll keep tying to think of ideas to meet this need.
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UPDATE:

Recently, I received a message from one of the Team GB coaches that said that he uses my TT app. Today, a former teammate of mine says that on TV he saw an Olympic coach with an iPad with what looked like my app on it during a Team Pursuit.

Hearing that makes it all worth it

Thanks for your input and suggestions everyone.
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That's pretty cool Carleton. My Sprinter at Rio, and another young Woman Silver medallist from Junior Worlds greatly benefitted from the immediate feedback they got as I emailed them the times and breakdown of each effort in training and racing. While I was coaching the next rider they were in the stands looking at the results and taking control of their next effort.

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UPDATE:

Recently, I received a message from one of the Team GB coaches that said that he uses my TT app. Today, a former teammate of mine says that on TV he saw an Olympic coach with an iPad with what looked like my app on it during a Team Pursuit.

Hearing that makes it all worth it

Thanks for your input and suggestions everyone.
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Originally Posted by Fergie NZ View Post
That's pretty cool Carleton. My Sprinter at Rio, and another young Woman Silver medallist from Junior Worlds greatly benefitted from the immediate feedback they got as I emailed them the times and breakdown of each effort in training and racing. While I was coaching the next rider they were in the stands looking at the results and taking control of their next effort.

Hamish
Thanks, Hamish! You are one of the folks that comes with the great ideas. That's great to hear!

I'm trying not to promise too much with my upcoming updates, so I won't speak to them until I'm closer.
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For those who actively use my app, I'm considering removing the 2-up timing feature. It's a lot of work (especially with the new design) and I wonder if anyone will miss it. Thoughts?

BTW, cook stuff is already being prototyped. Been coding off and on for 2 weeks.
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For those who actively use my app, I'm considering removing the 2-up timing feature. It's a lot of work (especially with the new design) and I wonder if anyone will miss it. Thoughts?

BTW, cook stuff is already being prototyped. Been coding off and on for 2 weeks.
YES ME! Love that app, use it at every event!!! DO NOT REMOVE!!!!!

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YES ME! Love that app, use it at every event!!! DO NOT REMOVE!!!!!

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Hahahaha...OK
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