Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

104 or 110 bcd for 36T chainring?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

104 or 110 bcd for 36T chainring?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-18-23, 12:12 PM
  #1  
hybridbkrdr
we be rollin'
Thread Starter
 
hybridbkrdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,931
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 222 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 24 Posts
104 or 110 bcd for 36T chainring?

I wanted to assemble a 1x crankset with a 36T chainring (for hybrid). Is it easier to choose 104 or 110 bcd for this? Is it easy to put a bashguard on both sides?
hybridbkrdr is offline  
Old 05-18-23, 03:06 PM
  #2  
maddog34
Senior Member
 
maddog34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: NW Oregon
Posts: 2,975

Bikes: !982 Trek 930R Custom, Diamondback ascent with SERIOUS updates, Fuji Team Pro CF and a '09 Comencal Meta 5.5

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Liked 739 Times in 534 Posts
the frame and wheel will determine the "ease" of the install... 104mm BCD is a 4 spider arm MTB crank size... 110mm BCD is an Old mtb, or Road size, plus it's a new style, assymetric hollowtech II spiders, crank size.

things to consider on the frame.. the distance between the inner faces of the rear dropouts.... and this will dictate the optimal CHAINLINE desired.. the number of rear gears can also be a factor...The Width of the Bottom Bracket will also help determine the Crankset that will fit up easiest... 68mm is the standard Road spec... 73mm is the standard MTB spec.

you must also consider crank arm clearance in relation to the frame's chainstay (lowest rear tubes on the frame) tubes(AKA: Q- factor)... Road cranks usually hit those frame tubes on MTB bike frames.

Measure between the rear dropouts of your frame, and post what bike make and model it is.. model year info is a big help.. "hybrid" is a very flexible term.... Wheel size helps too, as in 700c or 26" tires?

as to the bashguards.. the 104BCD will be best for that.

Last edited by maddog34; 05-18-23 at 03:19 PM.
maddog34 is offline  
Likes For maddog34:
Old 05-18-23, 03:27 PM
  #3  
hybridbkrdr
we be rollin'
Thread Starter
 
hybridbkrdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,931
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 222 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 24 Posts
I was thinking about the Bombtrack Munroe AL frameset. It would be running maybe 27.5x2.00 tires. Does it make a difference if I try 11-36T cassette instead of 11-34T?
hybridbkrdr is offline  
Old 05-18-23, 04:28 PM
  #4  
maddog34
Senior Member
 
maddog34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: NW Oregon
Posts: 2,975

Bikes: !982 Trek 930R Custom, Diamondback ascent with SERIOUS updates, Fuji Team Pro CF and a '09 Comencal Meta 5.5

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1299 Post(s)
Liked 739 Times in 534 Posts
the cassette won't matter in relation to the crankset.

the stock crankset is a square taper MTB 104BCD on a 119mm BB and the BB is 68mm wide.

why are you not just buying the stock bike? how much are you going to spend on that frame, anyway?

https://www.bombtrack.com/complete-bikes/munroe-al
maddog34 is offline  
Old 05-18-23, 04:39 PM
  #5  
RCMoeur 
Cantilever believer
 
RCMoeur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,543
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 527 Post(s)
Liked 1,808 Times in 819 Posts
Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I wanted to assemble a 1x crankset with a 36T chainring (for hybrid). Is it easier to choose 104 or 110 bcd for this? Is it easy to put a bashguard on both sides?
A chainguard on both sides will likely require the use of extended-length triple chainring bolts and nuts. An Amazon search turned up multiple vendors - here is one example.
__________________
Richard C. Moeur, PE - Phoenix AZ, USA
https://www.richardcmoeur.com/bikestuf.html
RCMoeur is offline  
Likes For RCMoeur:
Old 05-18-23, 04:51 PM
  #6  
zandoval 
Senior Member
 
zandoval's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bastrop Texas
Posts: 4,464

Bikes: Univega, Peu P6, Peu PR-10, Ted Williams, Peu UO-8, Peu UO-18 Mixte, Peu Dolomites

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 955 Post(s)
Liked 1,619 Times in 1,039 Posts
I don't know your set up but on my old bikes I had no problems going to a 34T ring on my 110 doubles.

I also had to go to a long cage derailleur to accommodate a 34T cog on my freewheels. That gave me a 1:1 knowing that if I needed anything lower I could just go to my Size 12Ds.
__________________
No matter where you're at... There you are... Δf:=f(1/2)-f(-1/2)
zandoval is offline  
Old 05-18-23, 05:04 PM
  #7  
CrimsonEclipse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,079
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 543 Post(s)
Liked 624 Times in 365 Posts
Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr
I wanted to assemble a 1x crankset with a 36T chainring (for hybrid). Is it easier to choose 104 or 110 bcd for this? Is it easy to put a bashguard on both sides?
110bcd has 4 bolt and 5 bolt.

From my experience, there are more selections for crank arms, chainrings, and bashguards in the 104bcd.
104 will also allow you to go down to 32t or 30t in the future if needed.
CrimsonEclipse is offline  
Likes For CrimsonEclipse:
Old 05-19-23, 08:00 AM
  #8  
hybridbkrdr
we be rollin'
Thread Starter
 
hybridbkrdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,931
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 222 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by maddog34
the cassette won't matter in relation to the crankset.

the stock crankset is a square taper MTB 104BCD on a 119mm BB and the BB is 68mm wide.

why are you not just buying the stock bike? how much are you going to spend on that frame, anyway?

https://www.bombtrack.com/complete-bikes/munroe-al
I wanted to use a bunch of stuff I wanted to choose myself like silver bars and stem, WTB Speed saddle, Schwalbe Marathon Mondial tires, Shimano pedals and the new sealed bearing Shimano hubs. And I thought about trying out the new CUES drivetrain but I just noticed on bikeman.com that the CUES 1x cranks are going to be either 32T or 40T etc. There's no 36T (or even 34T). I checked briefly on the net but couldn't quickly find a vendor for the frameset yet.
hybridbkrdr is offline  
Old 06-04-23, 05:49 AM
  #9  
hybridbkrdr
we be rollin'
Thread Starter
 
hybridbkrdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,931
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 222 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 24 Posts
If you choose two chainguards, do you add a spacer on one side? I mean the side of the bottom bracket. My other choice might be one chainguard but would I be better off with one of those anti drop chain adapters or whatever you call it?
hybridbkrdr is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.