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Any New Developments in Non-Offensive Headlamps?

Old 06-06-23, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Not really cost free but you aren't being charged...

Lezyne or B&M are the way to go and fairly easy to get, I mean if you are already supporting Billionaire Jeff Bezos' Amazon some schlub can drop it off at your house and make 71¢.
B&M Ixon Core went from $82 to $102 overnight on Amazon...
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Old 06-06-23, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
<br /><br />Blinking/flashing whatever you call them are dangerous for the very reason I have described I literally have to close one eye and turn my head to look away from the road or path I am on so the idea of being safer and more visible is gone out the door. There are also people who actually have seizures and or have vision issues or just don't want to see a flashing light in their face coming toward them for zero reason when a solid light will do a better job. I get a flashing light in an emergency situation but those are beyond rare.
You must be talking about blinking lights at night / in darkness. I have evaluated my blinking scenario in daylight and it does not create issues for me, or four other randomly selected participants -- I have exposed to the light at varying distances, from 5 to 50 feet away.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...

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Old 06-07-23, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
You must be talking about blinking lights at night / in darkness. I have evaluated my blinking scenario in daylight and it does not create issues for me, or four other randomly selected participants -- I have exposed to the light at varying distances, from 5 to 50 feet away.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
Yes. Night riding lights and daytime lights are completely different animals. I would never use a bright blinking light on the front at night-that's just stupid. In fact, even on the rear I use a slow breathing pulse or solid at night. My intentions are to get attention, not blind people.
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Old 06-07-23, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Are you looking for dynamo headlamps or rechargeable types? Any STVZO-compliant light must have the vertical cutoff, so for example, Lezyne has a collection of STVZO rechargeables: https://ride.lezyne.com/collections/...caAgUZEALw_wcB

:-( "Thank you for contacting Lezyne. This light was designed for the German market, so we didn't stock it here. A few distributors did bring it in to the US, but it was a slow seller so I haven't seen stock in a long time.

It is now discontinued.

If you have any more questions or concerns, feel free to contact us.

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Office: +1.805.548.8780"
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Old 06-08-23, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
:-( "Thank you for contacting Lezyne. This light was designed for the German market, so we didn't stock it here. A few distributors did bring it in to the US, but it was a slow seller so I haven't seen stock in a long time.

It is now discontinued.

If you have any more questions or concerns, feel free to contact us.

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Office: +1.805.548.8780"
By “this light” do they mean all STVZO lights? Maybe some of the German retailers like R2-bike, Bike24, or BikeDiscount have some and can hook you up.

Yeah, it looks like R2 is pretty well stocked on Lezyne STVZO and other stuff: https://r2-bike.com/navi.php?qs=Stvzo&search=
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Old 06-08-23, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
You must be talking about blinking lights at night / in darkness. I have evaluated my blinking scenario in daylight and it does not create issues for me, or four other randomly selected participants -- I have exposed to the light at varying distances, from 5 to 50 feet away.
In the daytime, I think blinking lights have more effect on the "non-cycling" motorist than non-blinking mode does.
A "stagnant" bike light in the brightness of daylight just kind-of blends in with the scenery, typically only noticed by night-riding cyclists...
No I must not, I am talking about blinking/flashing lights at any time anywhere. Yes it can be a lot worse at night but it is still a problem during the day. I get you think things and we all do but I know that I have to turn my head close one eye which is more dangerous if you can call that safe you do not understand the definition of safety and that is problematic.
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Old 06-08-23, 02:46 PM
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I'm running dynamo lights on two bikes but have not yet converted the hub on my gravel bike. I have been very satisfied with this battery-powered light from B&M:

IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
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Old 06-12-23, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by westrid_dad
I'm running dynamo lights on two bikes but have not yet converted the hub on my gravel bike. I have been very satisfied with this battery-powered light from B&M:

IXON Space - Busch + Müller EN (bumm.de)
I've had my eye on that Ixon Space for awhile now.
Considering I misplace many things, often never to be found, I thought it was just too pricey.

I recently acquired a Lumintop B01 and I love the warm light it emits with a good cutoff. A Kryptonite Incite X8 /XBR Taillight Set is on its way! BTW, the X8 kind of resembles the design of the Ixon Space.
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Old 06-16-23, 09:57 AM
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Cateye is doing StVZO in a large range of headlamps. Yeah, I think I ordered mine from some German internet outfit. They clip right into the Cateye mounts I've gathered over the decades.
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Trek has recently introduced their Commuter lights, with "Kindbeam", which cuts the light off at a horizontal line. I've been wanting to get one since I found out about them, and I got around to picking up the Commuter Pro RT today. I haven't ridden with it yet. First thoughts: The anti-glare feature is only engaged in "low beam" mode (steady 500 lumen output). It does not apply to "high beam" or day flash modes. Also, the owner's manual states that, "These lights do not conform to the German road traffic regulation StVZO."
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Old 07-08-23, 12:02 AM
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NiteRider Lumina Dual 1800 is a best buy in a serious night riding light with cutoff beam and long runtime per charge, which is readily available in the US. I've been using one for three years this summer and it's by far the best bicycle headlight I've tried.

However the Outbound Lighting lights look very good and I'll probably try one of those next.
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Old 07-08-23, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ogsarg
I'm not sure tech can fix the headlamp blinding problem. If you're being blinded, it's because someone aimed their light at you; presumably because they wanted to see you for some reason. Regardless of what you do to the light pattern, people will just adjust the aim accordingly. If you just reduce the light output, they probably won't buy it cause they want buy the blindingly strong light.
Exactly right. On top of that, an improperly aimed cut off style beam will be just as big of a problem. It's easy to get it aimed incorrectly. So this is no real solution but in the category of "it would be nice if..."

I'm glad I don't need to ride at night any more (retired) but no matter what, cyclist safety trumps any car driver inconvenience by multiple orders of magnitude. While irritating, a driver that has issues with glare will instinctively slow down and move away from the glare all of which, from my perspective as a cyclist, is a good thing. A cyclist has a fundamental need to have strong lighting for road defects and to be seen. And a cyclist has every right to be on that road at night.

I do notice that as I age, I have more sensitivity to glare. That's a result of aging, the beginnings of cataract formation etc... according to my ophthalmologist. If glare bothers you then you most likely need to be seeing the eye doctor more than you need to be worrying about what light a cyclist uses. We should have all been trained as drivers not to look directly at lights when night driving but to rely more on peripheral vision and that's a good lesson to recall now.
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Old 07-17-23, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tcs
Cateye is doing StVZO in a large range of headlamps. Yeah, I think I ordered mine from some German internet outfit. They clip right into the Cateye mounts I've gathered over the decades.
We discussed this in a different thread. I've just found a website that ships the CatEye GVolt 100, one of their StVZO compliant headlights, to the US.

https://www.rosebikes.com/cateye-gvo...system-2697805
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