Which spokes to use for Archetype 36h?
12-09-15, 11:43 AM
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Which spokes to use for Archetype 36h?
Wheel newb here. I'm around 220 riding with load - like to get some butted spokes - lace up 3x 36h Archetype to White Industries T11. I'm leaning toward Wheelsmith DB14. What would be the DT Swiss equivalent? Spoke calculator says:
Left spoke length: 287.6 || Right spoke length: 282.6
Do I round up? Wheres a good place to purchase?
Left spoke length: 287.6 || Right spoke length: 282.6
Do I round up? Wheres a good place to purchase?
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I believe the rule of thumb is to always round up to the next available size, unless there are other circumstances to take into account. As for where to buy them... amazon? My spoke calculator says that you generally have to buy DT swiss spokes a mm longer in some instances for the same hub/rim combination.
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Yea the Thinned section between the Butts will elongate a bit more than a straight gage ,
so Id say get a bit longer you want the spoke Threads filling the nip Head , to reinforce the Nip ..
Me? I shop Locally ..
so Id say get a bit longer you want the spoke Threads filling the nip Head , to reinforce the Nip ..
Me? I shop Locally ..
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DT Competition is the DT Swiss equivalent. Their narrow section isn't quite as narrow as the Wheelsmith DB14, but it's close. I've built wheels with both and haven't had a problem with either, but Peter White (who probably builds more wheels before lunch than I have in my life) says the Wheelsmith are better.
A few of tips from one amateur wheel builder to another:
-Use brass nipples. Alloy nipples are tempting with their lighter weight and available colors, but they are significantly softer and the silver ones at least look like crap after a year or so of exposure to the elements.
-Lube the spoke holes in some way, otherwise the nipples will get really hard to turn as you get close to final tension. (This applies to non-eyeleted rims.)
-Use a 4-sided spoke wrench. It can be a bit harder to get on the nipples, but you're a lot less likely to round the nipples.
I buy my spokes from Universal Cycles. They sell them individually, but you need to buy the nipples separately. You can find better prices on a per spoke basis if you shop around (eBay is a good starting point), but you generally end up with more spokes than you want so it seems to me that it's about a wash. Universal also builds wheels, so they can probably give you informed answers to any questions you might have via their live chat.
A few of tips from one amateur wheel builder to another:
-Use brass nipples. Alloy nipples are tempting with their lighter weight and available colors, but they are significantly softer and the silver ones at least look like crap after a year or so of exposure to the elements.
-Lube the spoke holes in some way, otherwise the nipples will get really hard to turn as you get close to final tension. (This applies to non-eyeleted rims.)
-Use a 4-sided spoke wrench. It can be a bit harder to get on the nipples, but you're a lot less likely to round the nipples.
I buy my spokes from Universal Cycles. They sell them individually, but you need to buy the nipples separately. You can find better prices on a per spoke basis if you shop around (eBay is a good starting point), but you generally end up with more spokes than you want so it seems to me that it's about a wash. Universal also builds wheels, so they can probably give you informed answers to any questions you might have via their live chat.
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