Originally Posted by Unca_Sam

The typical problem with shared video. BTW, welcome to the inquisition.

Originally Posted by Mr. 66

Why do you have to swear in your video? very immature

Originally Posted by stevel610

Sometimes I ride country roads where cars pass close. Sometimes I wish I had a pocket full of marbles.

Originally Posted by Mr. 66

Why do you have to swear in your video? very immature

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

I understand the anger you felt as someone chose to risk your life rather than move their steering wheel another 8 degrees counter-clockwise; did you expect a different outcome? No

Originally Posted by unca_sam

what a stupid question! What was i getting at there?

Originally Posted by Unca_Sam

Any of you heard of Mahatma Gandhi, or Martin Luther King Jr.
Retaliating with violent actions or words with what is perhaps an unintentional breach of road etiquette is not going to win you any friends, or convince the target of your anger that they made a mistake. Worse still, law enforcement now has evidence and a witness to a misdemeanor (remember that traffic citations usually don't rise to even that level) which you committed.

Close passes are dangerous and reckless, but responding with aggression doesn't make it better.

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

Sorry to say ... I'm not clear on "my misdemeanor" in this clip?

Originally Posted by Unca_Sam

You didn't commit such an offense. Retaliating in some of the ways suggested would be.

Originally Posted by RGMN

I always use the trail when I ride thru the Mills for that exact reason. But I'm usually crossing that intersection to go north on Plymouth rather than ride along Mtka. And Minnetonka PD only cares about giving tickets to cyclist, not protecting cyclist. I've had the conversation with the police chief and my council member and it is clear in talking to them that cyclist are the problem.

Originally Posted by Olefeller77

I hate to be "that guy" but It appears the three riders up to your right optioned to stay off the busy street. Is that an option.

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

I use the trail often, but not when riding one of my road bikes.


I agree with your route choice, if I was turning up Plymouth Rd, I wouldn't make a left from Mtka Blvd, no way!


If you want to talk with PD that really doesn't like people biking on the road ... call the Wayzata PD.

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

For those that want more, can't image why, but here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy4aCAHNQBU

I'm wish I were more composed while talking ... but I wasn't my best a that moment.

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

Ugh ... I find it stressful to call the police to report a traffic violation. More often than not, I end up educating the officer about laws for riding a bike on the roads. Sometimes I have a receptive officer other times they are openly dismissive. I have no expectation of a citation for the driver, I do ask the PD to call the owner of the vehicle and inform them that a bike is a legal vehicle on the road and that 3 feet is the minimum required space while passing. Today's officer was receptive but I needed to have statutes in front of me, since he was unaware of them. .... just needed to vent it out a little.

Since this is BF ... I know this could get into a few rabbitholes, so I'll share additional information: Statute 169.18, Subdivision 3: (3) the operator of a motor vehicle overtaking a bicycle or individual proceeding in the same direction on the roadway shall leave a safe distance, but in no case less than three feet clearance, when passing the bicycle or individual and shall maintain clearance until safely past the overtaken bicycle or individual.

Bicyclists are considered traffic based on Minnesota Statute 169.011, Subdivision 84 and have the same rights and responsibilities applicable to the driver of a vehicle according to Minnesota Statute 169.222, Subdivision 1.
Minnesota Statute 169.011 states: "Traffic" means pedestrians, ridden or herded animals, vehicles, streetcars and other conveyances, either singly or together, while using any highway for purposes of travel.
Reference: https://www.bikemn.org/education/min...20a%20roadway.

GoPro video of the pass that got me to call the police:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAKAc0HId6g

Postscript: just talked to the officer again. He contacted the driver, who claimed I was weaving unpredictably. Sadly the officer had no interest in the video which clearly shows no weaving. The only good take away from this effort is two more people are aware that 3 feet are required when passing a person using a bike on the road.

Originally Posted by sarhog

Gotta love the “you are blocking traffic” admonition, while blocking traffic! Thanks for the laugh!!!

Originally Posted by Hypno Toad

I have made this point to people that stop in traffic lanes to 'talk' with me many times. It's ironic that the person that feels inconvenienced a person biking in a traffic lane, but are just fine actually stop in the lane forcing traffic to stop behind them.

I hope I understand you correctly ... but just to be clear, while biking on the road, I am blocking traffic, I was traffic. The person in the Accord decided to stop in the traffic lane, that was blocking traffic.

Originally Posted by sarhog

I’m referring to you, stopped next to the Honda....blocking traffic. He is blocking traffic, but you apparently believe that, since you’re scolding him about his prior behavior, that your “stopped in traffic” is somehow more righteous than his.