Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Addiction 2021.3

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Addiction 2021.3

Old 08-27-21, 08:17 AM
  #6201  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 51,171

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 780 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28565 Post(s)
Liked 1,846 Times in 1,310 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
I have trimmed it in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lk2KHajp4Y
The music video was not asked for, or wanted.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:18 AM
  #6202  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by bampilot06
Also considering the canyon ultimate CF SLX 8. The reviews are hard to pass up, just wish the brake cables were hidden.
That there makes it a non-starter for me - whatever my next performance bike purchase, it'll have a clean cockpit, free from external wires, cables and brake lines.
WhyFi is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:22 AM
  #6203  
Velo Vol 
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 51,171

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 780 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28565 Post(s)
Liked 1,846 Times in 1,310 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
That there makes it a non-starter for me - whatever my next performance bike purchase, it'll have a clean cockpit, free from external wires, cables and brake lines.
wut's wrong with wires?

__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:24 AM
  #6204  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
wut's wrong with wires?
They attract too many birds.

WhyFi is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:28 AM
  #6205  
phrantic09
Fat n slow
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Saratoga, NY
Posts: 4,291

Bikes: Cervelo R3, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3247 Post(s)
Liked 2,074 Times in 974 Posts
Originally Posted by bampilot06
well that’s depressing. Looks like either wilier won’t be available until may next year. I have one bike shop hunting down a frame for me but with them building it, it’s going to exceed the cost. They offered sram red axs and enve wheels for 5 percent off but I think that will bring it to 10,000 or more. Wilier USA advertises di 2 for 9,000, however if I could get it with sram force it would be 8,000. I even am now leaning towards the zero SL. With sram or chorus it would be 7,000 which would leave money over for a computer, power meter and trainer. Unfortunately I can’t find one anywhere.

Not that I need to rush, but getting permission from the wife one has to act before she changes her mind.

Allied echo interest me a lot, just doesn’t have the aero I was hoping for, but maybe that’s not as important? Thoughts?
For 7-9K the bike should come with a PM imo
phrantic09 is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:32 AM
  #6206  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,201
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18391 Post(s)
Liked 15,465 Times in 7,306 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The music video was not asked for, or wanted.
Don't ask and you shall receive.

indyfabz is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:36 AM
  #6207  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by datlas
I just got a message from a patient citing ONE study on Ivermectin and asking me to write him a script.

Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent. Not at this juncture.

I know there may be a fine line between cutting edge and quackery, but I am a fairly mainstream physician/internist and it's too soon to be jumping on this bandwagon.
You can cite this one back to him.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:42 AM
  #6208  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,234
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8252 Post(s)
Liked 8,962 Times in 4,447 Posts
Originally Posted by datlas
There is a Saturn forums, in case anyone is wondering.

I just posted in there yesterday about changing the manual transmission fluid. The owner's manual says change at 30K and never again. So I am at 190K and last change was 160K ago. Works fine. But apparently that may not be correct?
I've heard this debated since I was a ute. I've seen a document from GM saying it's better to not change the oil because the metal in the oil acts as a lubricant. Same with differentials.
Some manual transmissions use ATF instead of gear oil. If I was going to change the oil on a manual trans, (I never have) it would be one with ATF.
big john is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:44 AM
  #6209  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Interesting that they find Ivermectin to be safer than the vaccine.
And all the “we don’t know the long term effects of the vax” but no concerns about the long term effects of covid…
Bah Humbug is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:44 AM
  #6210  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,234
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8252 Post(s)
Liked 8,962 Times in 4,447 Posts
Originally Posted by phrantic09
For 7-9K the bike should come with an engine imo
fifm
big john is offline  
Likes For big john:
Old 08-27-21, 08:46 AM
  #6211  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Interesting that they find Ivermectin to be safer than the vaccine.
And all the “we don’t know the long term effects of the vax” but no concerns about the long term effects of covid…
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 08-27-21, 08:53 AM
  #6212  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
The thing that drives me crazy about the craze for Ivermectin, or HCQ for that matter, is that, when you have multiple studies and some show AT BEST a small effect while others show no effect, the conclusion is that the effect is minimal to nonexistent. THAT is what the rational mind concludes. OTOH, there are large, controlled studies as well as 178 million vaccinees and the control population of unvaccinated that demonstrate clear, and high efficacy for the vaccine, as well as safety. But there are people out there literally drinking sheep dip and poisoning themselves, rather than take a vaccine that's been demonstrated safe and efficacious, and mostly because being against the vaccine is now a group identifier - people are actually getting vaccinated secretly for fear of their friends' reactions.

This is beyond stupid. It's psychotic.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:55 AM
  #6213  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by phrantic09
For 7-9K the bike should come with a PM imo
I feel like for 7-9K a bike should come with a valet who will keep it clean, lubed, and the tires pumped up.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 08:57 AM
  #6214  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts


Interrupted someone’s breakfast while taking out the trash this morning.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 08-27-21, 09:12 AM
  #6215  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug


Interrupted someone’s breakfast while taking out the trash this morning.
Imagine how infrequently you'd have to eat if you could eat things bigger than your head.....
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:
Old 08-27-21, 09:17 AM
  #6216  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
I noticed this on Strava the other day -

And trying to come up with a good joke, like "That's a Hell of a lot of efforts", or "It's been a Beast getting to this number", but nothing truly satisfying, so I'll just leave it there.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:
Old 08-27-21, 09:18 AM
  #6217  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 12,790
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9647 Post(s)
Liked 6,363 Times in 3,503 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
I feel like for 7-9K a bike should come with a valet who will keep it clean, lubed, and the tires pumped up.
Both of my wife's bikes cost far less than that, and they came with such a valet.
Mojo31 is offline  
Likes For Mojo31:
Old 08-27-21, 09:19 AM
  #6218  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,201
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18391 Post(s)
Liked 15,465 Times in 7,306 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug


Interrupted someone’s breakfast while taking out the trash this morning.
It's a lizard eat grasshopper world out there.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 08-27-21, 09:19 AM
  #6219  
BillyD
Administrator
Thread Starter
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 32,976

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 325 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11950 Post(s)
Liked 6,595 Times in 3,463 Posts
Originally Posted by Mojo31
Ironic, isn't it, that they won't put the vaccine in their bodies because it's not "safe," but they will put Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and who knows what into their bodies even though it may not be safe.

Edit: Seeds beat me.
Doesn't matter, that drum needs to be beat over and over and over. These ignorant people are a hazard to not only themselves but to everybody else.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Likes For BillyD:
Old 08-27-21, 09:22 AM
  #6220  
LAJ
So it is
 
LAJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 21,315

Bikes: Luzerne, 684, Boreas, Wheelhouse, Alize©®, Bayamo, Cayo

Mentioned: 246 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11385 Post(s)
Liked 4,706 Times in 2,745 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
This is beyond stupid. It's psychotic.
You just described the country as a whole.
LAJ is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 09:24 AM
  #6221  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,201
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18391 Post(s)
Liked 15,465 Times in 7,306 Posts
One of my guilty TV pleasures is watching reruns of Family Feud. The Steve Harvey version. One one episode the survey asked 100 people to name U.S. presidents who might have done well on "Jeopardy?" A family with a chance to steal the round answered "J. Edgar Hoover."
indyfabz is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 09:24 AM
  #6222  
LAJ
So it is
 
LAJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 21,315

Bikes: Luzerne, 684, Boreas, Wheelhouse, Alize©®, Bayamo, Cayo

Mentioned: 246 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11385 Post(s)
Liked 4,706 Times in 2,745 Posts
Originally Posted by LAJ
You just described the country world as a whole.
Fixed
LAJ is offline  
Likes For LAJ:
Old 08-27-21, 09:26 AM
  #6223  
Mojo31
-------
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Tejas
Posts: 12,790
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9647 Post(s)
Liked 6,363 Times in 3,503 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
One of my guilty TV pleasures is watching reruns of Family Feud. The Steve Harvey version. One one episode the survey asked 100 people to name U.S. presidents who might have done well on "Jeopardy?" A family with a chance to steal the round answered "J. Edgar Hoover."
Maybe he was the "real" president at the time. Pretty powerful guy.
Mojo31 is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 09:29 AM
  #6224  
BillyD
Administrator
Thread Starter
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 32,976

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 325 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11950 Post(s)
Liked 6,595 Times in 3,463 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
The thing that drives me crazy about the craze for Ivermectin, or HCQ for that matter, is that, when you have multiple studies and some show AT BEST a small effect while others show no effect, the conclusion is that the effect is minimal to nonexistent. THAT is what the rational mind concludes. OTOH, there are large, controlled studies as well as 178 million vaccinees and the control population of unvaccinated that demonstrate clear, and high efficacy for the vaccine, as well as safety. But there are people out there literally drinking sheep dip and poisoning themselves, rather than take a vaccine that's been demonstrated safe and efficacious, and mostly because being against the vaccine is now a group identifier - people are actually getting vaccinated secretly for fear of their friends' reactions.

This is beyond stupid. It's psychotic.
Um . . . where can I get me some of that sheep dip? I got this rash.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 08-27-21, 09:32 AM
  #6225  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by BillyD
Um . . . where can I get me some of that sheep dip? I got this rash.
Too many rash decisions.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.