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Old 11-16-21, 10:36 AM
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Oh, yeah - and the effect you describe is one of the problems with the Pace Partners - constant wattage. Real humans push harder on the climb, then go light on the descent, but with Pace Partners when you hit the top and would normally rest, they keep on at 2.5W/kg down the other side.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Whew! A word of advice to the Zwifters that have recently started riding with C. Cadence: yeah, don't let your mind wander through the Titan's Grove section. This morning, I jumped in mid-climb, which is pretty sedate with CC, but, as I was fiddling with giving Ride Ons or something, we crested, there was the surge, and I found myself instantly split on the downhill and it took some ass-bustin' to catch back on to the pack.
Do you use the Companion app while you ride? Do you know the easy way to drop Ride-Ons on the people around you?

As you found, you have to keep the motor going on the downhill sections, too. I like the C-bot pace, and ride with that group a lot. I tend to find myself with a small group that splinters off the front on a climb, and then keeps working at a 2.7+ level. B-bot is out of my reach right now.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Oh, yeah - and the effect you describe is one of the problems with the Pace Partners - constant wattage. Real humans push harder on the climb, then go light on the descent, but with Pace Partners when you hit the top and would normally rest, they keep on at 2.5W/kg down the other side.
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Do you use the Companion app while you ride? Do you know the easy way to drop Ride-Ons on the people around you?

As you found, you have to keep the motor going on the downhill sections, too. I like the C-bot pace, and ride with that group a lot. I tend to find myself with a small group that splinters off the front on a climb, and then keeps working at a 2.7+ level. B-bot is out of my reach right now.
This makes my head hurt.
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Originally Posted by big john
This makes my head hurt.
You're supposed to use your legs.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Oh, yeah - and the effect you describe is one of the problems with the Pace Partners - constant wattage. Real humans push harder on the climb, then go light on the descent, but with Pace Partners when you hit the top and would normally rest, they keep on at 2.5W/kg down the other side.
I find my natural tendency is to go a bit harder than 2.5 on the climbs, which takes me to the front of the group, and then I can go a bit easier for a little while on the descent as the group comes around me again.
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Baseball, soccer fans, and other riffraff.
Ute football, too. Future Volunteers.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Oh, yeah - and the effect you describe is one of the problems with the Pace Partners - constant wattage. Real humans push harder on the climb, then go light on the descent, but with Pace Partners when you hit the top and would normally rest, they keep on at 2.5W/kg down the other side.
Yeah, and it's compounded by the fact that the pacesetter is being additionally sheltered by the pack, which makes for a very brisk pace.

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Do you use the Companion app while you ride? Do you know the easy way to drop Ride-Ons on the people around you?

As you found, you have to keep the motor going on the downhill sections, too. I like the C-bot pace, and ride with that group a lot. I tend to find myself with a small group that splinters off the front on a climb, and then keeps working at a 2.7+ level. B-bot is out of my reach right now.
Yeah, I use the Companion App and just tap my location to dole out to those nearby. Is there another way?

I've only done one 40-minute round with BB. Certainly more work, but the main concern was the same as today - not getting split on a downhill. That is weird about the bots - as a bigger guy, it's very rare IRL that I work on downhills and use the uphill sections to rest, but that's Zwift for ya.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Maybe they could build a velodrome instead? That would attract snooty track cyclists.
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That's what I've said. There's not one in the entire region.
In their view they've provided $$ for MUPS, now it's time to show some love for the ball sports.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yeah, I use the Companion App and just tap my location to dole out to those nearby. Is there another way?
That's the easy way. There is a way to drop them on a specifically selected rider, but it's cumbersome.
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I use a gel containing lidocaine and naproxen on my knees when they flare up. Once or twice a day for one or two days. It was recommended by the pharmacist. I don't know if you can get it over the counter there. And of course it only works if inflammation is the root problem.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yeah, and it's compounded by the fact that the pacesetter is being additionally sheltered by the pack, which makes for a very brisk pace.



Yeah, I use the Companion App and just tap my location to dole out to those nearby. Is there another way?

I've only done one 40-minute round with BB. Certainly more work, but the main concern was the same as today - not getting split on a downhill. That is weird about the bots - as a bigger guy, it's very rare IRL that I work on downhills and use the uphill sections to rest, but that's Zwift for ya.
create a custom workout in another app at 2.5W/kg and put the trainer on ERG. Have Zwift receive power and HR only and you don’t even need to pay attention to keep with the pace setter.

note- I haven’t tried this yet
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create a custom workout in another app at 2.5W/kg and put the trainer on ERG. Have Zwift receive power and HR only and you don’t even need to pay attention to keep with the pace setter.

note- I haven’t tried this yet

Only issue is that they are not going at a completely consistent pace, but within a window - https://zwiftinsider.com/pace-partners-2/
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The lemon was the key ingredient. We're eating real hummus now. During the lime phase, I came up with various things to try to give it some flavor. One of those things was Kalamata olives. That ingredient is a keeper.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Ugh, the decline of Knoxville is underway. #P&R

https://twitter.com/randyboyd/status...06804770144261
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Motorsports. We have them.

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
I came up with various things to try to give it some flavor. One of those things was Kalamata olives. That ingredient is a keeper.
Roasted red pepper. Garlic. Lots and lots of garlic. Jalapeno pepper.

There used to be a brand of hummus called Bobbi's that was made maybe 2 miles from where I live. It was awesome. The garlic hummus, which was their first one, would knock your socks off. I believe the founder eventually sold the business and the brand is no more. Sad.
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Hey indyfabz ever have hummus from Zahav? It's quite good.
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And a velodrome...

Cycling Tracks - Kissena Velodrome : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)

... but the the one in Pennsylvania is closer.

Welcome to T-Town - Valley Preferred Cycling Center (thevelodrome.com)
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But no scurvy I take it?
I dunno, the drive thru testing site didn't offer a scurvy test

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Ugh, the decline of Knoxville is underway. #P&R

https://twitter.com/randyboyd/status...06804770144261
Ladies and gentlemen, the Knoxville Knockers!
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Interesting email I just got.

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Originally Posted by rjones28
... but the the one in Pennsylvania is closer.

Welcome to T-Town - Valley Preferred Cycling Center (thevelodrome.com)
They used to have spring and fall swap meets there every year. One fall I saw Greg LeMond there as he was about to go for a ride with a few buds. That was probably '07.

It's funny. For someone who's not all that into racing I have had some relatively close brushes with racers. I rode behind 7-11 and Coors Light the day before the '87 U.S. Pro Championship. In 1995, while riding to a Giro stage finish at the Bianchi factory in Treveliglio, Pantani came spinning solo in the opposite direction. (He sat out that year to rehab for Le Tour.) Bobby Julich, who was living in Philly for a while, rode by me on a local bike trail as I was stripping off layers on New Years Day in maybe '00. or was that '92? And Lance and the Motorola squad rode by me as I was attending to a mechanical on the same bike trail in 2001. .
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They used to have spring and fall swap meets there every year. One fall I saw Greg LeMond there as he was about to go for a ride with a few buds. That was probably '07.

It's funny. For someone who's not all that into racing I have had some relatively close brushes with racers. I rode behind 7-11 and Coors Light the day before the '87 U.S. Pro Championship. In 1995, while riding to a Giro stage finish at the Bianchi factory in Treveliglio, Pantani came spinning solo in the opposite direction. (He sat out that year to rehab for Le Tour.) Bobby Julich, who was living in Philly for a while, rode by me on a local bike trail as I was stripping off layers on New Years Day in maybe '00. or was that '92? And Lance and the Motorola squad rode by me as I was attending to a mechanical on the same bike trail in 2001. .
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