Kom Schwinn related to Paramount?
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Kom Schwinn related to Paramount?
Is this related to Paramount MTB stuff?
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03-07-22, 07:03 PM
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Thank you! I know nothing of that era Schwinn MTBs and that one is up for sale near me...
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03-08-22, 02:00 AM
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I would get to it, I know these are mentioned from time to time and it seems like they are a big deal. Anything this early with something like the curved stays has to be a big deal whether it was a good idea or not.
In other words I have no real idea if these are THAT big of a deal or Paramount adjacent but it should be well worth looking into.
In other words I have no real idea if these are THAT big of a deal or Paramount adjacent but it should be well worth looking into.
03-08-22, 08:56 AM
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Offer has been offered and I think accepted. We shall see.
I really don't need another bike but this seems pretty unique. I'll just have to offload a few items.
I really don't need another bike but this seems pretty unique. I'll just have to offload a few items.
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03-08-22, 04:06 PM
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I can send some to you! In addition to the visitor on its way...
I have some MTB frames I’d like to replace out...including a chrome KHS...
I have some MTB frames I’d like to replace out...including a chrome KHS...
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03-08-22, 06:24 PM
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Not at all. I like Japanese frames, even though I have a made-in-Italy Bianchi and a made-in-USA Schwinn. (1988 and 1989 Project KOM-10 (red, white, and blue complete bicycle) and -20 (bare frameset) were made in Greenville MS, using Japanese tubing. These succeeded the 1987 Paramountain. Someone told me the frame geometry is almost identical to that of a high-end Panasonic model of the same vintage.) If the Japanese version is as good as mine, I recommend it highly. I do not know how the curly stays impact ride quality, although of course the Hetchins crowd swears by them. 
KOM-10 pictured is not mine, which I have posted elsewhere. The main difference is that mine takes a U-brake or RollerCam up front, whereas all of the others I have seen take conventional cantilever brakes in front.
KOM-10 pictured is not mine, which I have posted elsewhere. The main difference is that mine takes a U-brake or RollerCam up front, whereas all of the others I have seen take conventional cantilever brakes in front.
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@merziac strong arm tactics and the literature provided by @chainstay -which filled in the blanks for lack of drive side pictures -sucked me in.
Well, and fear of Gugie burning me at the stake like an Ore-ida crisper...
If the gentleman doesn’t run out of patience waiting until Friday, I will pick up another cool, but probably N + too many, bike...
Well, and fear of Gugie burning me at the stake like an Ore-ida crisper...
If the gentleman doesn’t run out of patience waiting until Friday, I will pick up another cool, but probably N + too many, bike...
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@merziac strong arm tactics and the literature provided by @chainstay -which filled in the blanks for lack of drive side pictures -sucked me in.
Well, and fear of Gugie burning me at the stake like an Ore-ida crisper...
If the gentleman doesn’t run out of patience waiting until Friday, I will pick up another cool, but probably N + too many, bike...
Well, and fear of Gugie burning me at the stake like an Ore-ida crisper...
If the gentleman doesn’t run out of patience waiting until Friday, I will pick up another cool, but probably N + too many, bike...
You know me, I aim to please, always happy to help spend other peoples money. 
03-08-22, 06:55 PM
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You're just trying to make me lose the scent of a green metal thing from circa 1964 or something...
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It's a good call. I guess those had the original Deore DX transitional parts? Looking forward to seeing if those are still on there.
Now if someone can provide a home for that KHS chrome frame, I'd consider it an even swap out. I am sure I will have a reckoning with myself this summer.
Now if someone can provide a home for that KHS chrome frame, I'd consider it an even swap out. I am sure I will have a reckoning with myself this summer.
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My '91 Impact Pro has those stays. Can't say I notice anything different in particular about how it rides, but it's a conversation starter.
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I have to admit I'm a little bit disappointed. When I read the title I was hoping to see something like this:
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03-09-22, 07:41 AM
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I bought one of those new in 1990 and still ride it. Makes me a little sad to see that it's only worth a hundred dollars. I guess I'll never sell it.
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It took me awhile to figure that one out~
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03-11-22, 06:27 PM
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Darn that Merziac...
After listening to my west coast enabler, I adopted Karla Kom the Schwinn. Glad I did. Very cool. Seat post issue but very neat little Schwinn. Not a Schwinn owner keeper until this one.
Odd tapered and stuck seat post. Looks like a concor seat...
Front derailleur cable pulley
Deore crank, FD, RD, AND pedals.
Paramount cage
Odd tapered and stuck seat post. Looks like a concor seat...
Front derailleur cable pulley
Deore crank, FD, RD, AND pedals.
Paramount cage
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Is the SR seatpost hard anodized and tapered (thicker at seat tube level), and thinner as it gets to the saddle cradle area).
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So...first thoughts. It will have to find its pace on line on the queue.
1. Rides nice; other than the seatpost, seems well taken care of. Might be a wee bit on the small side for me unfortunately, but I am not sure yet.
2. Might have to replace stem/seatpost saddle and rapid fire shifters, which I have always disliked. Depends on how much stem is in the steerer, and whether the 7 speed Shimano thumbies I think I have will play nice.
3. It is light for steel.
4. Was thinking about dirt drop, but might be a little small for it. I'd have to really do well with a stem.
5. Surprisingly few scratches and nicks. Will be beautiful without a stuck post and with a polish and wax.
6. Deore DX is underrated good stuff.
1. Rides nice; other than the seatpost, seems well taken care of. Might be a wee bit on the small side for me unfortunately, but I am not sure yet.
2. Might have to replace stem/seatpost saddle and rapid fire shifters, which I have always disliked. Depends on how much stem is in the steerer, and whether the 7 speed Shimano thumbies I think I have will play nice.
3. It is light for steel.
4. Was thinking about dirt drop, but might be a little small for it. I'd have to really do well with a stem.
5. Surprisingly few scratches and nicks. Will be beautiful without a stuck post and with a polish and wax.
6. Deore DX is underrated good stuff.
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