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Old 06-29-22, 11:16 AM
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That is not what I have.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
That is not what I have.
No. You have the two piece.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
I'm glad I don't feel the need to have The Next Big Thing. That would be expensive. I have had a tendency, even in buying new stuff, to take advantage of the deals available on the last generation of something when the next generation comes out. I got 1/3 off the list price of $3000 on the Ritchey back in 1997 because it was 8 speed DA and the 9 speed just came out. When I built up the Battaglin in 2007, I kitted it out with 2006 Chorus - bright alloy stuff instead of the then-new black. When I bought the Dodge in 2014 I got $8K off MSRP because the significantly refreshed 2015s were coming out.

So, I'm glad one can now get 105 in Di2 with disc brakes, but I won't be lining up for it.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
I'm glad I don't feel the need to have The Next Big Thing. That would be expensive. I have had a tendency, even in buying new stuff, to take advantage of the deals available on the last generation of something when the next generation comes out. I got 1/3 off the list price of $3000 on the Ritchey back in 1997 because it was 8 speed DA and the 9 speed just came out. When I built up the Battaglin in 2007, I kitted it out with 2006 Chorus - bright alloy stuff instead of the then-new black. When I bought the Dodge in 2014 I got $8K off MSRP because the significantly refreshed 2015s were coming out.

So, I'm glad one can now get 105 in Di2 with disc brakes, but I won't be lining up for it.
I often do the same, which is why I'm watching that Emonda. 25% off for a "last year's" tech bike is pretty good. I'd really like to go electronic on the Domane, and the savings of the 105 over the Ultegra is too much to ignore, especially since the 105 on it has worked fine for me without any real failures.

I don't have 11 bikes, so there is that.

Last sports car I bought was 8 months old with only 5k on the odometer. Saved me roughly $25k over new. There are lots of places where slightly used or "last year's model" will save some real money.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
I often do the same, which is why I'm watching that Emonda. 25% off for a "last year's" tech bike is pretty good. I'd really like to go electronic on the Domane, and the savings of the 105 over the Ultegra is too much to ignore, especially since the 105 on it has worked fine for me without any real failures.
When I bought the Canyon back in 2020, I was specifically looking for a modern CF bike with disc brakes, a lot of gears, and a semi-compact crankset. I almost went for the Ultegra version, but it was hundreds more and everything I read or saw about 105 vs mechanical Ultegra said 105 was so close you might not notice any difference.

I don't have 11 bikes, so there is that.
Neither do I! 11 bikes would be madness. I only have 10. Completely different!
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
When I bought the Canyon back in 2020, I was specifically looking for a modern CF bike with disc brakes, a lot of gears, and a semi-compact crankset. I almost went for the Ultegra version, but it was hundreds more and everything I read or saw about 105 vs mechanical Ultegra said 105 was so close you might not notice any difference.



Neither do I! 11 bikes would be madness. I only have 10. Completely different!
For now!
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I know some people hate them. I prefer to carry everything on the bike, rather than the body, but when I go on a mountain bike ride I have to put on the larger Camelbak.
The lady in the picture is extraordinarily strong. Not only is she really fast on a bike, she is a big mountain skier and mountain climber. She did Mount Whitney in 13 hours, which is really fast. I was sad when she moved to another state.
same - prefer to carry on the bike

but most of our off road group(s) including myself used a Camelbak (or similar) and a fanny pack for tools/tube - very few used a bag on the bike
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I worked at a shyster used car lot and some gas stations and eventually was partners in a garage with another alcoholic. He went to a new car dealer after we closed and I didn't end up at a new car dealer until 1989.
my one friend was a mechanic until he grew tired on being yanked around by the dealerships he worked at

he worked flat rate - did very well - but then dealer 1 continued to change things around which (surprise) led reduced pay

dealer 2 did something similar - only worse - and that was the end for him

he was incredible - he could have a control arm off a car before I would have it up on the lift lol


the diagnostics mechanics have now are amazing - including the portable stuff ; mechanic can plug into a car and obtain critical info in seconds

last car I sold - guy brought a mechanic who took quick look at the car and then connected a diagnostic tool / something into the harness (or something lol) under the dash

my guess he got a read on compression / emissions / etc ... that type of thing ?

he/they seemed satisfied - and car was sold
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
For now!
I think I'm done. In 2021, each time I bought a bike, within a month or so there was another one I wanted. It's been 6 months now and I don't feel any desire or interest in anything else. I think the Litespeed filled the last corner.

It was the same with watches. Once I'd acquired the elusive first model of the Elgin Bumper Automatic, I stopped wanting any new wrist watches, and after I finally got one of the first run of the last model of Elgin BW Raymond railroad pocket watch, I stopped wanting any new pocket watches. Up till then, I was checking Ebay multiple times a day - a surprising number of great deals pop up that need to be jumped on, like the seller who lists a solid gold watch as gold filled, for a low Buy It Now price. I saw that twice, and hit the BUY button so hard I could have hurt myself. The funny thing is, in BOTH cases, the sellers' photos CLEARLY showed the '14k Gold' hallmark.
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I was 6/6, too.
Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.
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Mrs. Trainsnorter’s Edmonds SL-7 delivery date has been pushed back to first week of September from first week of August. She’s bummed.
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Mrs. Trainsnorter’s Edmonds SL-7 delivery date has been pushed back to first week of September from first week of August. She’s bummed.
Is she getting the SL7 or the SLR7?

I was told delivery of a size 56 SL7 should not be expected before December.

If she has an SLR on order, you should know that there is a recall/stop sale order on the bar/stem combo.
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I can't carry a backpack on any bike. During the brief period I used a camelback I rigged it to a fanny pack.
my youngest kid would often attach a RC truck to a backpack - and then ride his bike into the woods to a spot where he would run the RC truck
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Originally Posted by t2p View Post
my one friend was a mechanic until he grew tired on being yanked around by the dealerships he worked at

he worked flat rate - did very well - but then dealer 1 continued to change things around which (surprise) led reduced pay

dealer 2 did something similar - only worse - and that was the end for him

he was incredible - he could have a control arm off a car before I would have it up on the lift lol


the diagnostics mechanics have now are amazing - including the portable stuff ; mechanic can plug into a car and obtain critical info in seconds

last car I sold - guy brought a mechanic who took quick look at the car and then connected a diagnostic tool / something into the harness (or something lol) under the dash

my guess he got a read on compression / emissions / etc ... that type of thing ?

he/they seemed satisfied - and car was sold
What I did for the last 30 years was diagnosis, engine performance, emissions, electronics, the stuff nobody wants to do. There was a dramatic change in 1996 with the introduction of protocols and laws for vehicles to monitor emission related stuff. This is called OBD 2 and the connector under the dash is called the data link connector. This connector allows access to the up to 30 computers on a communication link.

If checking a used car you can see any trouble codes which are set, even if warning lights are not on. If a car has a bad catalytic converter, for example, the seller can clear the light with a code reader and it won't come back on until the computer has failed it's test. A good code reader will tell you if the tests have been run, or not.

In California a car will fail a smog check if those tests have not run. This is a source of much frustration for technicians trying to get the tests (called monitors) to pass. It can be a giant PITA.
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No. You have the two piece.
Ttku

just want to make sure we are all on the same page.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
Is she getting the SL7 or the SLR7?

I was told delivery of a size 56 SL7 should not be expected before December.

If she has an SLR on order, you should know that there is a recall/stop sale order on the bar/stem combo.
Yes, SLR7 Project One. She is getting a 50 and supposedly bare frames are available in dinky sizes for building depending on part’s availability. However, in this case, it seems they are having paint shop problems/delays.
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Today I drove to the next valley and rode the bike path for a change. I was doing it twice a week until gas went over $6.25 a gallon. Figured it would save me almost $100 per month to stop driving there but today I wanted to have a nice ride with no cars and no climbing. Plus the bonus of women on bikes smiling back.
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Is she getting the SL7 or the SLR7?

I was told delivery of a size 56 SL7 should not be expected before December.

If she has an SLR on order, you should know that there is a recall/stop sale order on the bar/stem combo.
Her spec’s are for an Aeolus RSL Integrated Bar/Stem.

The dealer provides updates every few weeks and hasn’t mentioned anything. I’ll stop in first chance that I get.
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[QUOTE=big john;22558242]What I did for the last 30 years was diagnosis, engine performance, emissions, electronics, the stuff nobody wants to do. There was a dramatic change in 1996 with the introduction of protocols and laws for vehicles to monitor emission related stuff. This is called OBD 2 and the connector under the dash is called the data link connector. This connector allows access to the up to 30 computers on a communication link.

If checking a used car you can see any trouble codes which are set, even if warning lights are not on. If a car has a bad catalytic converter, for example, the seller can clear the light with a code reader and it won't come back on until the computer has failed it's test. A good code reader will tell you if the tests have been run, or not.

In California a car will fail a smog check if those tests have not run. This is a source of much frustration for technicians trying to get the tests (called monitors) to pass. It can be a giant PITA.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. We were on the verge of despair when Mrs. GeneJockey's Sienna wouldn't pass because ONE TEST kept showing as "Not Ready".
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Her spec’s are for an Aeolus RSL Integrated Bar/Stem.

The dealer provides updates every few weeks and hasn’t mentioned anything. I’ll stop in first chance that I get.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for your wife. Seen around town:

by MitchatTrek on Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:09 pm
Hey all, just to provide clarity and to confirm the above, Trek is currently undergoing an investigation into the Aeolus RSL VR-C handlebar/stem here in the USA with the CPSC. We don't have complete details to share yet, but once we do, and a solution is in place that meets the CPSCs and our requirements, we will have an active recall. We would advise against riding these handlebars in the meantime.

Once available, full details for our recall will be shared on our website listed below:

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/comp ... y_recalls/

Stay tuned for updates there and also lookout for contact from your retailer. We can't provide further detail about the bar/stem yet, but it is on the way soon.

And:

Official Statement Sent to Dealer's in Regards to the Aeolus RSL VR-C Handlebar / 2022 Speed Concept Recall


Trek is asking you to check your inventory and sales floor for the affected models identified above. We have confirmed that you may now contact customers who have purchased affected models. Please advise customers that we are working with the CPSC to announce a recall, and that they should stop using the affected product until a remedy is available.

If you have affected inventory, please follow the steps below:

1. Remove affected models from sale immediately and do not permit test rides of affected bikes until we have replacement base bars and handlebars/stems available.

2. File a separate B2B service claim for each affected product (no mass uploads permitted) under the appropriate issue code in the Recall section. Under "Issue details: When did this happen," for product in your inventory, choose "Before consumer delivery" and for product in a customer's possession, choose "After consumer delivery."

a. SPEED CONCEPT MY22 BASE BAR
  1. Enter the bike serial number and include a photo of the bike serial number.
b. AEOLUS RSL BARSTEM
  1. If you have an affected Emonda SLR, enter the bike serial number and include a photo of the bike serial number.
  2. If you have an affected aftermarket handlebar/stem, include a photo of the handlebar/stem by itself with your claim.
  3. Affected base bars and handlebar/stems must be returned to Trek after completion of the claim, so we can certify destruction. Trek will issue a prepaid return tag for you to use to return the affected bars. If you do not return the affected bars, you will be charged for the replacement product.
  4. For each claim approved, Trek will send a color-matched replacement base bar or handlebar/stem as soon as they are available.
For Aeolus RSL VC-R handlebar/stems, Trek will conduct a two-step remedy. To keep your customers riding, we will offer a temporary individual handlebar and stem until the updated handlebar/stem combo is available.

Trek will notify you when a new handlebar/stem combo is available. Your customers can keep this temporary handlebar and stem.

5. Trek will compensate retailers with the following:
  • a. For approved bicycle claims:
  1. A US$75 credit for replacement handlebar tape and hydraulic brake hose (to be provided by the shop consistent with the bike assembly manual), and
  2. A wholesale labor credit of USS125.
  • b. For approved aftermarket bar claims:
  1. For in stock, uninstalled handlebar/stem, we will issue a credit.
  2. For aftermarket bars installed on a customer bicycle, see 5(a) above.
Trek will contact you again when this voluntary safety recall goes live. If you have any questions, please contact your Trek representative
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This all makes me glad I don't have carbon bars. Not that aluminum doesn't fail, but it seems more to fail from age and neglect than misadventure or inadequate engineering.
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This all makes me glad I don't have carbon bars. Not that aluminum doesn't fail, but it seems more to fail from age and neglect than misadventure or inadequate engineering.
I like mine. And, I don't get that nasty white corrosion from sweat under my tape either (I don't think!).
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Just replaced my sticky 6800 FD with the 8000 unit. It's a very nice design with some fairly significant innovations, like a better pull angle and an excellent cable tensioning system. Also, a breeze to set up.
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