Phil_gretz

Also, a "shattered" knee sensation isn't really descriptive from a diagnostic perspective. I doubt that the OP has actually felt a shattered knee, or else he would have fallen from the bike in agony.

Iride01 

Yeah, and coupled with this statement made by the OP....
I have to wonder what they are even talking about?

How does one put a knee on the floor while stopping or starting? Or are they saying they are doing a stretching exercise for their left knee prior to and post ride?

Possibly English isn't their native language and there are nuances in the translation being missed and taken the wrong way?

Ed Wiser

Bike fit required and visit to ortho to see what knee issues you have.

Milton Keynes

I don't know that I'd call it a troll post, but just another "newbie starts a thread at Bike Forums looking for advice but never returns." Seems like that happens a lot for some reason or another.

kahn

I read that as suggesting they put their left leg/foot down when stopping????

bruce19

Keep talking like that and we will ban you from BF.

Outrider1

Have you tried using a different chain lube?

Iride01 

Hmmm.

I can see that now. That will seem to favor that the English isn't the OP's native tongue and they are using a translator.

However will their problem now be a "shattered" foot instead of knee?

genejockey 

I'll see your 15 years on platform pedals with no knee problems and raise you my 25 years on clipless pedals with no knee problems.

genejockey 

My then-almost-100 year old great grandmother said, "Don't get this old, Dougie," 'this' being the operative word.

Charliekeet

I’ll wager that you had it right in this one. Too much hard work on the front of the knees despite (reportedly) having things in the right relationships, plus complaining of creaking (possibly older?) knees means to me that the poster is trying to push too hard (high) of a gear a lot.

livedarklions

50 years on platforms and no knee problems. What do I win?

Don't say Turtle Wax, don't say Turtle Wax...

CyclesNWeights7

the respect and admiration of a forum newbie?

livedarklions

I'm a platform pedal guy, but I think this is complete bs. There's no connection between pedal type and knee problems, you're just making that up.

wolfchild

Every time somebody mentions knee pain or knee problems on these forums, 99% of the time that person also happens to be using clipless pedals. Plenty of cyclists also had to have knee surgeries or complete knee replacements. I suspect clipless pedals to be the culprit

livedarklions

Well, as long as YOU suspect it, there must be something there. That's sarcasm, by the way. You've committed more logical fallacies in that short post than I thought possible.

​​​​​​Nice fake statistic, by the way. Document that 99% figure, I dare you.

You do understand that people often take up biking because they have knee problems and find other aerobic activities too painful, right? So by your logic, when those people need knee surgery later, their pedals caused it?

Bicycling as an aerobic activity is attractive to older people, people with joint problems, and overweight people. Guess what groups are going to be more prone to needing knee surgeries.


I'm not a fan of clipless pedals, but I'm really annoyed with people making stuff up to talk other people out of liking what they like.

Chuck M 

Two pages and the OP hasn't returned and in the meantime this has turned into a platform vs. clipless pedal debate without any mention of the type of pedals the OP is using. BF never disappoints.

kahn

I can see clipless pedals causing or exacerbating knee issues. They generally fix the alignment of the foot (with some having more or less float than others) and therefore, the alignment up the leg to the knee and hip. That can lead to torque due to angle limitations. Whereas a platform allows one to freely place and move the foot without a rigid connection between the foot and pedal. Rider feels pressure so realigns their foot, in/out/front/back/left/right/ or two or three or four degrees in some direction and potentially different for the left foot and right foot. Clipless are much more limiting in those accommodations.

Now ALL KNEE problems - probably not.

I presume that the OP will have had a full knee replacement and fully healed when this discussion finally ends!

BlazingPedals

What's your cadence? Maybe your problem is simply pushing a big gear at a low rpm. That's known to cause knee issues, unlike clipless pedals (30 years and counting.)

The big question is, will we ever hear from OP again?

Miele Man

If you can, se a sports medicine doctor who has experience with bicyclists.

Cheers

CyclesNWeights7

I second this, but would also recommend a sports chiro. They do a lot that doesn’t have to do with spine and neck.
For example, I have nerve impingement in an elbow and they can relieve that much easier and cheaper than an Ortho would.

Homebrew01

Huh ?

If using clipless, consider cleats with float. But could be many other causes.

kahn

The OP has been on the forum as recently as today.

livedarklions

Not buying it unless someone comes up with data. I've had too many clipless advocates argue that platforms cause problems by allowing incorrect foot placement (complete rubbish) for me to buy "I can see..." as a legitimate kind of proof. I think it would be obvious that the clipless alignment was causing you problems long before any actual damage was done.

Maelochs

I am so sorry .... I missed the post that advised us to "cue pointless debate." I would have added much more dross and drivel had I noticed.