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Old 07-30-22, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie View Post
Could have fooled me
Me too. Especially if you start talking about some hot-button subjects (example: early STIs) that are now well over 35 years old.
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Old 07-30-22, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo6 View Post
Me too. Especially if you start talking about some hot-button subjects (example: early STIs) that are now well over 35 years old.
Wasn't that decreed not C&V when this forum was opened? https://www.bikeforums.net/early-bri...s-7-8-9-speed/

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Old 07-30-22, 03:48 PM
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I saw one to ID all frames including motorcycles and they had an Ebike. I'm ok with getting the dang thing wrong but I should at least get the image with the correct answer.
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Old 08-01-22, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Wasn't that decreed not C&V when this forum was opened? https://www.bikeforums.net/early-bri...s-7-8-9-speed/

-Kurt
Dunno if "early brifters" have ever been explicitly stated to be "not C&V". I've never been able to find an explicit definition of what is and isn't "C&V" for the purposes of this forum, and I wasn't a member when the C&V forum was created. But yes, the creation of the "early brifter bikes" near-ghost-town forum does imply that.

However, that decision is questionable IMO. Plus, as time passes the definition of what is considered "C&V" changes in every field of human activity. Cycling is no different.

Case in point, from the automotive world: when the first Ford Mustang was sold in the mid-1960s, it was certainly not "vintage" and most didn't yet consider it a classic (though some did from nearly day one). 30 years later, it was generally considered a prime example of both. Today? If you want to obtain one, well, good luck finding one for sale - and if you do, bring serious $$$.

Minor error in my original post: I had mis-remembered the intro date of STI's - they were introduced in 1990, not the mid-1980s as I'd erroneously recalled (that was STI). They're thus "only" been around 30+ years, not 35+.

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Old 08-01-22, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondo6 View Post
Dunno if "early brifters" have ever been explicitly stated to be "not C&V"...
I probably should have put an "/s" at the end of my post, if you get my brift

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Old 08-01-22, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
I probably should have put an "/s" at the end of my post, if you get my brift

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That would have helped. Otherwise a responder can misinterpret and brift off-course a bit.

Kinda like I did.
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Old 08-01-22, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo6 View Post
Case in point, from the automotive world: when the first Ford Mustang was sold in the mid-1960s, it was certainly not "vintage" and most didn't yet consider it a classic (though some did from nearly day one). 30 years later, it was generally considered a prime example of both. Today? If you want to obtain one, well, good luck finding one for sale - and if you do, bring serious $$$..
I've always thought that was beyond funny. When I was young we laughed at kids whose parents got them a Mustang. The old ones are still one of the most unattractive cars Ford ever built no matter what they sell for. I mean, just plain goofy looking.
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Old 08-01-22, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie View Post
I've always thought that was beyond funny. When I was young we laughed at kids whose parents got them a Mustang. The old ones are still one of the most unattractive cars Ford ever built no matter what they sell for. I mean, just plain goofy looking.
To each his own. Along with many car aficionados, I've always considered the first Mustang body style (1964- through 1967) among the cleanest and nicest auto designs Detroit ever made.

Now, when you start talking some of the later models, well . . . you've got a point. Especially when you get to the Pinto-chassis-based Mustang IIs.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Yes, the sound at 1:28 right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSdLfvvQLhI

The same background music plays too

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One of my favorite movies as a kid (just ask my folks!) Fun fact: the hippie next to them at the drive-in diner was also Dean Jones.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
One of my favorite movies as a kid (just ask my folks!) Fun fact: the hippie next to them at the drive-in diner was also Dean Jones.
And "Guinevere" was Buddy Hackett. "Couple of weirdos, eh, Guinevere?"

The main bug used for the racing shots ran on 15x7 track-spec Firestones and (at the time) had a Super 90 out of a 356B shoved in it.

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Old 08-01-22, 04:59 PM
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If the movie was meant to be some sort of film noir cautionary tale of a dystopian future featuring cars that drive themselves, imprisoning their hapless occupants, it kinda missed the mark....

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And perhaps one of the most important studies on this topic found that most riders will take a red light on a clear intersection to get away from the drivers behind them that can't be trusted:
https://daily.jstor.org/are-cyclists...s-lawbreakers/

I do this all the time. An intersection is a great place to get killed on your bike. I only stay if I have to.
My wife sits at red lights with all the cars waiting for it to turn green because she thinks it's safer. I tell her "cars kill" and I use them being stopped to get away from them for safety.
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