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Old 09-30-22, 09:52 AM
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My preference is for group road rides, but I will often prefer Zwift over riding solo on the road. The interaction with other riders in real time - even in a virtual world - is more motivational for me.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post
Thereís definitely a relationship between having full sinuses and my bouts of vertigo- assume Iím getting fluid build up which exacerbates the material issue.
Itís not the debris issue in your case, itís inflammation spreading from an affected sinus to the Eustachian tube, blocking it, and putting mechanical pressure on the inner ear.
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Normal timing? I ask because we are running almost two months early this year.
Seems about right.
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My preference is for group road rides, but I will often prefer Zwift over riding solo on the road. The interaction with other riders in real time - even in a virtual world - is more motivational for me.
99.99% of mine are solo to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
My preference is for group road rides, but I will often prefer Zwift over riding solo on the road. The interaction with other riders in real time - even in a virtual world - is more motivational for me.
I generally limit my interactions with other riders to using them as rabbits for motivation.
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I donít plan on renewing zwift this year, I donít mind the cold or the cold rain, once Simon is born I will have to figure something out. I imagine I can do intervals using the free wahoo app and erg mode, just increasing the setting on the app, like wise set up zone 2 rides that way as well. I really donít know what to expect as far as my riding time will go. In my head I picture 15 mins whenever I get a chance. I am hoping I will be allowed outside every now and then, but iíll prolly be limited to an hour, 90 mins max. It will be a big adjustment for sure. This is also why I am focusing on so much volume now. My monthly mileage has increased since May, and I hope I can keep that up til the due date.
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PAOTD, for 9/30
A 930 for 9/30?
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I donít plan on renewing zwift this year, I donít mind the cold or the cold rain, once Simon is born I will have to figure something out. I imagine I can do intervals using the free wahoo app and erg mode, just increasing the setting on the app, like wise set up zone 2 rides that way as well. I really donít know what to expect as far as my riding time will go. In my head I picture 15 mins whenever I get a chance. I am hoping I will be allowed outside every now and then, but iíll prolly be limited to an hour, 90 mins max. It will be a big adjustment for sure. This is also why I am focusing on so much volume now. My monthly mileage has increased since May, and I hope I can keep that up til the due date.
After Zwift, I can't imagine using a stationary trainer without the visual component, even for just a short interval session.
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After Zwift, I can't imagine using a stationary trainer without the visual component, even for just a short interval session.
Same. That said, one of my friends tells me he can pop on a movie DVD and ride a dumb trainer for 2 hours. That's dedication. I would give up after 10 minutes.
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After Zwift, I can't imagine using a stationary trainer without the visual component, even for just a short interval session.

I didnít really like the visuals on zwift anyways, and I really only used it for zone 2 which I would just watch a movie.
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I didnít really like the visuals on zwift anyways, and I really only used it for zone 2 which I would just watch a movie.
Most of my Zwift rides are with the C-bot (2.5 w/kg) which is a nice tempo effort level for me. When I'm feeling decent, I will usually end up in a splinter group off the front working at 2.7+. I like the bot groups because I can joint and quit any time I like, whereas group rides starting at a specific time often don't fit with my schedule. When I'm feeling like something structured, a planned routine is erg mode is very effective. On occasion, I will just ride and see how it goes. Pretty frequently, I'll end up riding with a few others who are working at the same level. If I'm solo, I'm probably chasing a rabbit up the road. This is how I do it. You do you.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
First frost last night.
Only reached 36 here in So. Glens Falls.
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What is the normal timing for Velo Vol to come out of hibernation/hiatus??
Something tells me heís gone for good this time.
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Something tells me heís gone for good this time.
Bummer. In spite of his obtuseness, I think he added something valuable here.
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It either gets resorbed or you acclimate to it. That's why usually vertigo gets better with time and/or Epley maneuvers. But like most things in life, it's complicated and the debris/crystals theory is probably only part of the story.
Epley maneuvers work great for migratory crystals.
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First frost last night.
Our first frost was on Wednesday.
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After Zwift, I can't imagine using a stationary trainer without the visual component, even for just a short interval session.
Yeah, that was one problem I had with Wahoo SYSTM - there were visuals, but they weren't tied to my pedaling. I used to ride without visuals apart from cadence and HR on my head unit, using a dumb trainer, but I could barely last 40 minutes, and that was with loud rock music on earbuds (B52s have a nice fast beat for 90+ cadence).

Then I set up at home with my laptop running YouTube videos through the TV in the garage, and that made a big difference. I could ride a lot longer with less concentration. One set of videos I found showed the gradient, which allowed me to mimic it with gear changes. I also found a local rider's videos, taken on a number of roads I ride all the time. Since I know what each segment feels like, I adjusted my gears and effort to match.

Then I got on Zwift, initially with the dumb trainer and ZPower, but later with a smart trainer and that's WAY better. So much more like riding IRL. I've done 2+ hours on Zwift without significant distress. Mind you, my cousin's kid (Kid? He's in his 40s!) did a Century on Zwift.
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Yeah, that was one problem I had with Wahoo SYSTM - there were visuals, but they weren't tied to my pedaling. I used to ride without visuals apart from cadence and HR on my head unit, using a dumb trainer, but I could barely last 40 minutes, and that was with loud rock music on earbuds (B52s have a nice fast beat for 90+ cadence).

Then I set up at home with my laptop running YouTube videos through the TV in the garage, and that made a big difference. I could ride a lot longer with less concentration. One set of videos I found showed the gradient, which allowed me to mimic it with gear changes. I also found a local rider's videos, taken on a number of roads I ride all the time. Since I know what each segment feels like, I adjusted my gears and effort to match.

Then I got on Zwift, initially with the dumb trainer and ZPower, but later with a smart trainer and that's WAY better. So much more like riding IRL. I've done 2+ hours on Zwift without significant distress. Mind you, my cousin's kid (Kid? He's in his 40s!) did a Century on Zwift.
Similarly I started with just a timer and loud music, then Zwift with a dumb trainer, then a smart trainer. I think my longest Zwift ride is about 2 hours. Usually I'm working in a smaller time window and 1 hour is all I can squeeze in.
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Our first frost was on Wednesday.
What is this "frost" you guys keep talking about?
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Latest thinking about most common cause of vertigo is cellular debris in semicircular canals. When I was in medical school they told it usually was a viral cause, but the debris theory is probably closer to the mark.
epley maneuver for the win. Do it until the vertigo is gone. I was just through this BS about a month ago.
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I have a dumb trainer which I used sometimes while I was working. I could stay on it 30 or 40 minutes watching tv. Longer if there was football, but not much longer.
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It either gets resorbed or you acclimate to it. That's why usually vertigo gets better with time and/or Epley maneuvers. But like most things in life, it's complicated and the debris/crystals theory is probably only part of the story.
Tell us the rest of the story...
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Annual heater maintenance today.
I got a new AC unit yesterday.
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