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Old 05-31-22, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
Let's assume the Bike Hand stand wears out and parts aren't available... At $120, I could buy three of of them over the course of 25+ years and it would still cost me less than one Park Tool Stand.
Not really.

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Old 05-31-22, 08:26 AM
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Old 05-31-22, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce19
OK. So I could buy two for the price of one Park Tool Stand.
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Old 05-31-22, 09:19 AM
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Anyone can find anything on the internet to align with their beliefs.
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Old 05-31-22, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
Anyone can find anything on the internet to align with their beliefs.
Let's be clear, I don't care what you believe or buy. I tried to provide information that would be helpful. Obviously, you do what you want with it. My Park stand is now 30+ yrs old. Based on it's current condition it will be here when I'm gone. I'm happy. Hope you can find a way to be happy too.
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Old 05-31-22, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
I find it pretty funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on a bike--sometimes well over ten thousand dollars! And yet when it comes to the tools to maintain these bikes, we cheap out.
I find it pretty funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on a bike, and sometimes over ten thousand dollars, and get no gain whatsoever over a "lousy" $2,000 bike. Why is that? because it's all about the engine and not the bike.
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Old 06-01-22, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I find it pretty funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on a bike, and sometimes over ten thousand dollars, and get no gain whatsoever over a "lousy" $2,000 bike. Why is that? because it's all about the engine and not the bike.
What does this have to do with bike repair stands??
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Old 06-01-22, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
What does this have to do with bike repair stands??
About the same as your comment you made in regards to the stand!
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Old 06-01-22, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
About the same as your comment you made in regards to the stand!
My post has plenty to do with the stand--and our ability (or lack thereof) to swallow the costs of maintaining our bikes. Your post has nothing to do with the cost of bike maintenance.
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Old 06-01-22, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
What does this have to do with bike repair stands??
About the same as it does with your comment about stands.
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Old 06-01-22, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
My post has plenty to do with the stand--and our ability (or lack thereof) to swallow the costs of maintaining our bikes. Your post has nothing to do with the cost of bike maintenance.
Yawn.
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Old 06-02-22, 12:56 PM
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What do you mean by elitist? If by that you mean someone who thinks that a company (or individual) that has invested lots of time and money into the development of a product or device ought to be able to make that device within the time of the patent without someone else coming along and stealing the idea, then I guess I’m an elitist.



The Bike Hand stand is an absolute copy of the Park 10.3 stand. I’m relatively certain that the company that copied it didn’t pay to license the patent.
When was the original patent issued? Has it expired?
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Old 06-02-22, 02:26 PM
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My Ultimate stand is somewhere around 20-25 years old. It's now Feedback. 4 or 5 years ago, the clutch clamp started failing. Feedback sells the replacement mechanism that still fits my old stand perfectly. $10 or $12? I don't remember. The new clamp is redesigned, and sturdier.

Ultralight Repair Stand

I like this twist - clutch method. I lift the bike by the top tube, and clamp the seatpost. Twist the knob counterclockwise a quarter turn to release the clutch, push it shut onto the seatpost, turn the knob a half turn or so to tighten. Fast acting and precise clamping force. Unlock with a half twist and pull it all the way out.

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Old 06-02-22, 03:00 PM
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I have fat-bikes, one weighing over 45lbs. The Bike Hand would not cut it for me..

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Old 06-03-22, 06:41 AM
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45 lbs?! oofta. You have cement in the tires?

My fat bike weighs 26 lbs.
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Originally Posted by prj71
45 lbs?! oofta. You have cement in the tires?

My fat bike weighs 26 lbs.
Haha! It's a steel framed Mongoose tank..My Trek fatty is much lighter, but I still put the Mongoose on the stand.

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Mongoose. That explains it.
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I have fat-bikes, one weighing over 45lbs. The Bike Hand would not cut it for me..

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45 pounds is 10 pounds UNDER the 55 pound limit of the Bike Hand
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
45 pounds is 10 pounds UNDER the 55 pound limit of the Bike Hand
Understood, but to be frank, I am not going to push the limits of some knock-off. I'll take my 80lbs Park Tool to be safe. 👍
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Originally Posted by whipnet
Understood, but to be frank, I am not going to push the limits of some knock-off. I'll take my 80lbs Park Tool to be safe. 👍
Well I seen Youtube reviews where they put 55 pound E bikes on them without issue, but whatever; but know this, most people don't ride 45 pound bikes either, so for most people that bike stand is more than adequate.

By the way, my wife's e-bike weighs only 42 pounds.
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OK. So I could buy two for the price of one Park Tool Stand.
Here is my philosophy on tools. Many probably share my philosophy as well. I buy the best tool I can afford. If I can afford to buy a $100 dollar tool that does the job well versus a $50 dollar tool that's just ok but I save $50, I will buy the $100 tool. Here is why, over the last 40 years I have worked in bike shops as a young man and in technology as a career. All that time I did all of the work on my own bikes. Working in bike shops I learned what good tools can do and more importantly I learned how bad cheap tools can be.

Good tools you buy once, cry once but you skip the frustration, the barked knuckles, the stripped fasteners, the scratched paint, the dropped bikes, the bent bikes, the wheels that took too long to true, etc. If you want a bike stand that will do the job well with no compromises a Park bike stand is the way to go...has been for years.

I have two Park stands but my favorite is the Park Team Issue (PRS-22) because I can gain access 360 degrees, raise or lower the bike and it will fit any bike I put into it. It ain't cheap now but I bought it probably 10 years ago and darn glad I did. It looks great standing next to my Park Pro wheel truing stand which I've had for over 30 years.

If all you want to do is the occasional repair, then by all means save the money. If you want a good tool that will service you for the rest of your life and do a fine job, then buy the better stand.


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Great Philosophy with just one problem. You don't need Snap On quality tools to work on bikes, simple as that. If you have money to burn and don't care about how much you want to spend on anything, then buy Snap On quality tools to work on a bike, but if you buy Pedros tools or some such thing, they'll last you the rest of your life.

However, I suggest to people all the time, no matter if they want to dink on a car, house, bicycles, etc, only buy the tool you need when you need it, don't by a tool set because you'll likely get tools you could already have, and you'll get tools you may never use.

Same idea with a bike stand, you don't need pro quality bike stand, if you don't have a bike shop and are not wrenching on 15 bikes a day, and you are only wrenching on your bikes, which means you are infrequently working on a bike, I know, because I have 7 bikes, and I probably will wrench on one of them maybe once a year, my bikes don't break down, and I doubt your bikes are breaking down much. Heck most stuff I do I don't even need to use the stand!! In fact, it's been about 4 or 5 years since I last used my stand. Now I will be using it this summer because I'm working on transferring components off of my wrecked 85 Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, and will be putting them on an 87 Dawes Touring frame and fork, so I'll need the stand more than I've used it in the last 10 or so years! So, do I need a $400 dollar stand? No, and most of you don't either if you sit down and think about it a bit.

Buy high quality if you use something every day, otherwise save yourself some money. Heck for about 30 years or so I wrenched on my own bikes without a stand whatsoever! I could do it again if I had to since I rarely use the stand anyways.

Just an opinion, not meant to start a flame war, you have to do what you think you need to do, the same reason why a person who never races, or competes in any fashion will buy a $15,000 bike, because they want it, not because they need it. And banks like that sort of mentality, its why credit cards are huge so people can buy stuff they want and not need.
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What about some of us that have off road hunting E bikes with fat tires that weigh in around 80#+ and those (round) clamping jaws don't fit these bike fames that have square type of frames or seat posts that are 3-1/2" by 1-1/2" etc.
Not any choices, that I have found so far......?
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Originally Posted by Nvreloader
What about some of us that have off road hunting E bikes with fat tires that weigh in around 80#+ and those (round) clamping jaws don't fit these bike fames that have square type of frames or seat posts that are 3-1/2" by 1-1/2" etc.
Not any choices, that I have found so far......?
An engine lift? 😛
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
Great Philosophy with just one problem. You don't need Snap On quality tools to work on bikes, simple as that. If you have money to burn and don't care about how much you want to spend on anything, then buy Snap On quality tools to work on a bike, but if you buy Pedros tools or some such thing, they'll last you the rest of your life.

However, I suggest to people all the time, no matter if they want to dink on a car, house, bicycles, etc, only buy the tool you need when you need it, don't by a tool set because you'll likely get tools you could already have, and you'll get tools you may never use.

Same idea with a bike stand, you don't need pro quality bike stand, if you don't have a bike shop and are not wrenching on 15 bikes a day, and you are only wrenching on your bikes, which means you are infrequently working on a bike, I know, because I have 7 bikes, and I probably will wrench on one of them maybe once a year, my bikes don't break down, and I doubt your bikes are breaking down much. Heck most stuff I do I don't even need to use the stand!! In fact, it's been about 4 or 5 years since I last used my stand. Now I will be using it this summer because I'm working on transferring components off of my wrecked 85 Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, and will be putting them on an 87 Dawes Touring frame and fork, so I'll need the stand more than I've used it in the last 10 or so years! So, do I need a $400 dollar stand? No, and most of you don't either if you sit down and think about it a bit.

Buy high quality if you use something every day, otherwise save yourself some money. Heck for about 30 years or so I wrenched on my own bikes without a stand whatsoever! I could do it again if I had to since I rarely use the stand anyways.

Just an opinion, not meant to start a flame war, you have to do what you think you need to do, the same reason why a person who never races, or competes in any fashion will buy a $15,000 bike, because they want it, not because they need it. And banks like that sort of mentality, its why credit cards are huge so people can buy stuff they want and not need.
I don’t see the “problem” you allege, as one does not need Snap On tools to work on cars, either. Watch B is for Build on YouTube, and you’ll see those dudes building entire cars with all Harbor Freight stuff, for example.

I’ll point out again, the comparable Park stand to the BikeHand is the $219 PCS 9.3, and it’s worth noting that PCS is short for Park Consumer Stand; it is not Park’s pro level stand, and arguably is therefore not “pro quality” either.

In any case, I find it sickeningly sanctimonious to make adjudications about what others need, particularly when you have a stand which you admit to hardly using. The hypocrisy is disgusting, man.
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