Carlton Franco-Suisse-My new to me beautiful rip-off!
04-26-19, 05:03 AM
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That looks really great. I'm glad you were able to save this one.
You have the option of putting the sticker back on it...
You have the option of putting the sticker back on it...
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04-26-19, 07:25 AM
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Alex does nice work. I agree it's tempting to show it off, but you'll want to at least clearcoat it to keep the red stuff at bay.
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04-26-19, 12:02 PM
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I agree, Alex does great work! Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll be sure to clear coat it before I build it up. I have a brother that I’ve invited into this project and he and I have begun ordering parts. Several pieces are on the way. Still looking for a few things though.
04-26-19, 08:18 PM
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Glad to see the repair come out so nice. BTW, how did the Raleigh Team (Mr. Michael’s Recycles) go over?
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04-26-19, 08:34 PM
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04-27-19, 09:35 AM
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Looks like he did a great job.
Definitely touch it up with some paint. Rust sucks. Clearcoat won't do much to protect that area as it is constantly getting hit with road muck and moisture.
Definitely touch it up with some paint. Rust sucks. Clearcoat won't do much to protect that area as it is constantly getting hit with road muck and moisture.
04-27-19, 09:53 AM
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Damn fine job! Dying to hear the details on how it was done, and comments from the framebuilder.
You should paint over it else it'll rust. Maybe for once I'll advocate a clear coat, at least for a season. Everyone believes it'll have spider rust under it, now would be a good time to test that theory! You can always go back in next season and paint it over.
You should paint over it else it'll rust. Maybe for once I'll advocate a clear coat, at least for a season. Everyone believes it'll have spider rust under it, now would be a good time to test that theory! You can always go back in next season and paint it over.
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04-27-19, 12:41 PM
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Damn fine job! Dying to hear the details on how it was done, and comments from the framebuilder.
You should paint over it else it'll rust. Maybe for once I'll advocate a clear coat, at least for a season. Everyone believes it'll have spider rust under it, now would be a good time to test that theory! You can always go back in next season and paint it over.
You should paint over it else it'll rust. Maybe for once I'll advocate a clear coat, at least for a season. Everyone believes it'll have spider rust under it, now would be a good time to test that theory! You can always go back in next season and paint it over.
04-28-19, 07:31 AM
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Fantastic!
So glad it's working out!
So glad it's working out!
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04-30-19, 02:56 PM
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07-08-21, 11:43 AM
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Thought I’d finally update this thread since it’s been a couple of years now. I’ve had the stay painted by an auto body painter. The color is a pretty good match but while blending in the new and old paint he unfortunately covered the pin striping on the bottom bracket. He kept the bike for several months but when he was finished he didn’t charge me for the work. I’d like to find a good pin striping brush and attempt to re-line the bottom bracket shell. Everything else regarding the frame is as it was and as it should be.
I’ve also assembled quite a nice parts collection for the bike, I still need a few more bits but it’s coming along slowly. Truthfully I’d have finished building this a long time ago but I’ve been acquiring new C&V bicycle projects faster than I’ve been acquiring the parts to finish this. Here is much of what I have so far. Campagnolo Record (no Record) hubs, GB Spear point stem, Lyotard 460 pedals, and a Williams 5 pin Crankset and chain wheel. These Williams pieces took forever to find. Due to how long this is taking, I considered just going with an all Campy build but I have quite a few Campagnolo equipped bikes already. I decided that there’s no hurry and I could sit around and wait for the proper catalog spec to become available. I’m going to make this one a 4 or 5 speed. I’ve also got some Nisi tubular rims that are not pictured. In the end I’ll have a mostly original spec 1960 catalog build with a few period correct Campagnolo cheats (I mean upgrades). I’m still looking for GB Coureur Plus side pull brake calipers and red dot 🔴 Super Hood levers. Lastly, does anyone know of a good source for the proper bolts to fit this 5 bolt Williams crank arm and chainring?
I’ve also assembled quite a nice parts collection for the bike, I still need a few more bits but it’s coming along slowly. Truthfully I’d have finished building this a long time ago but I’ve been acquiring new C&V bicycle projects faster than I’ve been acquiring the parts to finish this. Here is much of what I have so far. Campagnolo Record (no Record) hubs, GB Spear point stem, Lyotard 460 pedals, and a Williams 5 pin Crankset and chain wheel. These Williams pieces took forever to find. Due to how long this is taking, I considered just going with an all Campy build but I have quite a few Campagnolo equipped bikes already. I decided that there’s no hurry and I could sit around and wait for the proper catalog spec to become available. I’m going to make this one a 4 or 5 speed. I’ve also got some Nisi tubular rims that are not pictured. In the end I’ll have a mostly original spec 1960 catalog build with a few period correct Campagnolo cheats (I mean upgrades). I’m still looking for GB Coureur Plus side pull brake calipers and red dot 🔴 Super Hood levers. Lastly, does anyone know of a good source for the proper bolts to fit this 5 bolt Williams crank arm and chainring?
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07-08-21, 12:54 PM
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If you haven't already, you should take note of this thread about built-up pedals like these failing badly suddenly:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...al-danger.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...al-danger.html
07-08-21, 03:16 PM
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the months gallop by. Should be a decent repair. Thank you for the circle back and update.
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07-08-21, 05:07 PM
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As a fellow F-S owner, I am following your saga with interest. My S/N starts with K, which denotes 1962. Your H would be 1959 only if they used I and J in the letter sequence. Many manufacturers skipped over I to avoid confusion with the numeral 1.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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07-08-21, 05:38 PM
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As 1960 is the first model year for the Franco Suisse, I’m calling it a 1960. The seller speculated late 1959 based on the serial number when I bought the frame but even if it is from 1959, it’s still a 1960 to me.
07-08-21, 05:42 PM
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My Bianchi's 1.M serial number is from 1981, but it fits the 1982 model description, except for the color, which does not seem to fall into either 1981 or 1982.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
07-08-21, 07:59 PM
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If you haven't already, you should take note of this thread about built-up pedals like these failing badly suddenly:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...al-danger.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...al-danger.html
07-09-21, 09:46 AM
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Wonderful frame, great story. Glad you were able to save the structural integrity without "overwriting" the history of the bike. The longer I mess around with bikes the more affection I have for that history, the scrapes and use marks that inscribe the life of the bike onto the surface.
Very cool. Build it up!
Very cool. Build it up!
07-09-21, 02:20 PM
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Thanks for the update! Repair looks great from here. Nice save.
I have absolutely no idea how that happens.
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