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Modern lugged steel disc brake frame with carbon fork & fully internal cable routing

Old 08-12-21, 06:51 PM
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Modern lugged steel disc brake frame with carbon fork & fully internal cable routing

https://bikerumor.com/2021/08/12/bat...ake-road-bike/

Battaglia Portofino 40th anniversary edition.

Custom geometry, carbon fork built in Italy, lugged 2OS tubing, fully internal cables, cromovelato paint with fade.
Pretty slick.
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Oh, that’s tasty!
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Man that’s beautiful!!
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Pretty, but $5800 for a frameset is out of my budget.
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Why do they put a carbon fork on that bike? A steel fork seems more appropriate.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Why do they put a carbon fork on that bike? A steel fork seems more appropriate.
A good portion of why is the carbon fork has a D shaped steerer tube to allow for internal cables. Also, most all modern mid-high end steel road and gravel bikes from builders use a carbon fork at this point.
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It is a gorgeous bike, a real ego booster. But for me, that is about all it would be. If I were considerably younger, in fine financial shape, and wanted a top of the line, modern steel frameset, this could well be it.
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Stunning, love the chrome lugs!

although I’m not in the market and will never get rid of my Speedvagen, I recently saw this Ti disk that they did that had me yearning.


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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Why do they put a carbon fork on that bike? A steel fork seems more appropriate.
Because carbon rides better than steel.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
A good portion of why is the carbon fork has a D shaped steerer tube to allow for internal cables.
There's no reason you couldn't make a D-shaped steerer tube on a steel fork.

Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Also, most all modern mid-high end steel road and gravel bikes from builders use a carbon fork at this point.
I don't understand why they do that either.

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Because carbon rides better than steel.
Forks or whole bike?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
There's no reason you couldn't make a D-shaped steerer tube on a steel fork.
True. And that is something I thought about before responding, but I mentioned the D shaped steerer since that was in the article and is typically part of how brands manage to hide their cables.
I think any steel fork on that frame would look out of place due to the tubing size. Its actually quite larger than 2OS tubing. A skinny steel fork added to that size tubing would look more out of place than some of Cannondale's offerings back in the day.

Personally, I like steel forks. Its what I have on all my road bikes and also my old gravel bike turned commuter. But my current gravel bike uses some various shaped and sized 853 tubing for the main triangle and a gravel fork. I think the wider fork blades match well with the larger frame tubes, especially the downtube.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Forks or whole bike?
Both.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
https://bikerumor.com/2021/08/12/bat...ake-road-bike/

Battaglia Portofino 40th anniversary edition.

Custom geometry, carbon fork built in Italy, lugged 2OS tubing, fully internal cables, cromovelato paint with fade.
Pretty slick.
For 5,000 Euros, I think you could do better from a custom builder.

Though I will admit that it is very pretty.
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Old 08-13-21, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
For 5,000 Euros, I think you could do better from a custom builder.

Though I will admit that it is very pretty.
It isnt what I would get if I were to go custom again, but I dont think many builder could currently do what these guys have done. Fully internal cables is no small feat. It isnt really what I care much about as my gravel bike is fully external and my road bikes have just the rear brake cable inside a tube. But its really no small feat.
Its a solution to a problem that doesnt exist for me, but its super neat to see the efforts to continue to innovate.

This bike is clearly for the trekmoguls of the world.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
It isnt what I would get if I were to go custom again, but I dont think many builder could currently do what these guys have done. Fully internal cables is no small feat. It isnt really what I care much about as my gravel bike is fully external and my road bikes have just the rear brake cable inside a tube. But its really no small feat.
Its a solution to a problem that doesnt exist for me, but its super neat to see the efforts to continue to innovate.

This bike is clearly for the trekmoguls of the world.
Yes, true, I was missing the full internal routing. Any custom builder does charge a fair bit extra for that -- if they even do it.

On my Di2 bike,I got the bar-end junction box A, and had the bluetooth module tucked inside the frame -- and it makes for a tidy front end. Having all of the cables inside the frame would be very clean and attractive.
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For 5,000 Euros, I think you could do better from a custom builder.

Though I will admit that it is very pretty.
I assume the bike is built to spec. Color, size, etc. I'm not quite sure what else you would expect from "custom". Would they let you specify accessory mounts?

As far as a steel fork, the company does seem to put steel forks on most of their bikes.

My guess is that a typical steel fork would look disproportionate to the bike. And, it might be difficult to keep the weight down for an oversized fork.
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I assume the bike is built to spec. Color, size, etc. I'm not quite sure what else you would expect from "custom". Would they let you specify accessory mounts?

As far as a steel fork, the company does seem to put steel forks on most of their bikes.

My guess is that a typical steel fork would look disproportionate to the bike. And, it might be difficult to keep the weight down for an oversized fork.
Sorry, I wasn't clear: I think you could get a custom steel frame (with cf fork, if you like) that is as nice as that for a lower price.

But for a person in this price range, a few hundred (or a thousand) dollars either way is probably no biggie.
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I could imagine 5000€ for complete build. Campy Super Record, SRAM Red, etc. Hydro discs. Perhaps mix and match a bit.

It is a little expensive when one has to consider another 2000€, or more for the components.

Still, that is an extraordinarily sleek build for steel.
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Wow, that’s amazing. And custom sized means they’re making custom lugs, which is a ton of work very, very few builders can swing at any price. I’m thinking that’s a pretty sweet frameset deal for ~6k USD, and were I able to throw down something like $12k for a bike, that rig would suit me just fine.
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That is a beautiful bike. Not one I would buy but that's simply a matter of economics. However, seeing a quality steel bike does make me appreciate my GURU Sidero even more. So happy to have it.FWIW I bought this bike built with SRAM Rival and Mavic Aksiums from a friend for $1200. She had gotten it through a sponsor and it didn't fit her well enough. She rode it about 6 times and sold it to me. I upgraded with SRAM Red and Mavic USTs. I totally love this bike.

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