making

I worked for the federal govt back when email to all first became a thing. People would send out recipes to all, which would be 1000's, or leave request and on and on. Then everyone would send back, reply all, to take them off the list. It was funny but I wondered then why it could not be stopped.

RubeRad

I think of it more like architecture and/or mechanical engineering. You have to design and build all sorts of parts that interact with each other properly so that the whole thing works together right. Things go wrong when one chunk of code doesn't receive input data the way it expected to -- or another chunk of code doesn't return output data the way its caller expected it to (which is to say the same thing)

Kat12

I've not fallen for them, usually because the email address it's coming from is quite obviously outside our domain so obviously not coming from our office/headquarters office (and now they've started tacking "{EXTERNAL}" on all emails not from our domain)... but then sometimes we'll get legitimate emails that have a spammy feel (in the wording, or the format, or whatever... my favorite was one with a subject line about scams or phishing or whatever and the body itself wasn't much more than "click here for more information" {sometimes they'll do this and link to a memo on our intranet somewhere}, and I was thinking, "Guys? You're shooting yourself in the foot...")


I wish I had this for my coworkers. We once got a new system at work. I sent the QRG to my workgroups, saying something like, "The QRG has instructions for how to log on the first time." Do you know how many replies I got with "How do I log on?" (And these are the people I'm expected to patiently support. I take the time to send them info they don't read, and then when they want me to hold their hand on it later, because they have no clue what they're doing and don't want to take the time to look it up because it's easier to just ask me, I have to do it...)


Sometimes I get meetings that are meant more for socialization than anything else. Because people figure, we're not in the office and having the usual everyday office banter. *sigh*


Because someone would have to do the work to stop it and they don't want to.

Seattle Forrest

I've told my coworkers I'll attend all the meetings you want, and might learn something by osmosis. But I'm going to be working through meetings that don't directly apply to me, so if you want my attention say my name first and wait for me to respond.

I thought I was being mildly disrespectful but they want to nice fast here and my boss loved that.

Darth Lefty 

It depends… I first learned Basic and Pascal and then FORTRAN and now I can write obsolete style programs in any language

RubeRad

lol one of my favorite lines to make fun of really old school coders "A good enough program can write FORTRAN in any language"

Once you can program in basically any language, learning another is not so much learning a new language as learning a new accent.

genec

Learning the language, and being good in it are two different things... I am familiar with BASIC, ASSEMBLY and FORTRAN, but have written so little code in any of them as to basically be a novice.
I have done enough ASSEMBLY code for 8088 for it to have been used in production, but hell that was some 25 years ago... and a whole 'nother lifetime away.

Darth Lefty 

It's a slur though an appropriate one. OOP (C++) and GUI were big changes.

RubeRad

Yes, and you can write FORTRAN in C++, because you can write C. C++ compilers are happy to compile vanilla C code, with nary a 'class' keyword in sight

Seattle Forrest

I've never heard of ladder logic until this thread. I googled it, it looks a little bit like how a person would set up an "extract, transform, and load" (ETL) to bring information into a database. You use the mouse instead of the keyboard and work with a flow chart like interface to set a pipeline up.

Zinger

Fanuc G-Code List - Helman CNC

Well here's some fun with a form of that.


And don't forget to dry run new programs above the part first. Relying on graphics is risky.
Or: Don't freeze in panic failing that. Don't forget to hit that big red button . . . if you have the luxury of time.

SkinGriz

Program Logic Controls. If you’ve ever been in an elevator, seen an assembly line, operate a crane, etc.

The more modern version of motor controls.

Darth Lefty 

I've used a few other programming languages that worked like that, specifically Lab View and an old one called Easy Five. Works well for test engineering because you can have a math based model of the performance of each component (say one for a servo and one for a valve) and just draw a line between them.

I remember my dad bringing home these vast rolls of paper for us to color on and play with, obsolete printouts of logic from airliner autopilots. From somewhere between the actual spinning gyroscope era and the GPS era.

DiabloScott

Man I miss those big ol' folded spreadsheet papers with the tear strips of holes on the side, green and white rows, and the dot matrix doodad that went back and forth.
Still available for some great scratch paper.

Seattle Forrest

I get to implement some machine learning the next few days. 🙂

I-Like-To-Bike

You can apply alternate color shading to rows or columns in an Excel spreadsheet or template with a few easy steps of conditional formatting or by formatting as a table.
I prefer the conditional formatting method since it is easier (for me) to select the exact color of the shading. Screenshot example is below, and an older list on hand with the conditional formatting applied to the rows. Works for Excel 2007. Later I will try to figure out how to do it for Excel 2000.

See apply-color-to-alternate-rows-or-columns

RubeRad

that hurts my eyesballs, the green rows definitely need their intensity rolled way back!

I-Like-To-Bike

Is this better?



It is easy to pick any color shade that suits your eyeball sensitivity!

RubeRad

much better

DiabloScott

Can you make a conditional formatting to make it sound like a 27-pin printer too?

I-Like-To-Bike

Here is the sound effect https://sounds-mp3.com/i-en-matrix-printer or this one: NoisyDot Matrix PrinterYou could put it in an endless loop on an mp3 playing device device.
Maybe one of the High Tech Bros Smart Guys from the PNW can figure out how to play an mp3 rather than a sound/beep. If so here is a little on line help to use conditional formatting to initiate a sound. - https://excel.tips.net/T006559_Condi...udio_File.html

Darth Lefty 

Appropriate if we are talking about city noise

79pmooney

Scott, I see that and think 9-pin printers. (I still have a Panasonic. I keep it because it always works if I can find the right port. The fact that I haven't looked at it for years matters zero. Plug it in and watch it print.)

DiabloScott

Man, that is the sound of WORK GITTIN DONE! Thanks.

Seattle Forrest

I couldn't say who was president the last time I printed anything.