Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Tires

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-05-21, 04:40 AM
  #1  
Colorado Kid
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 357 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 136 Times in 82 Posts
Tires

I don't want to start a Flame War but I want 700+28 tires for my commuter/touring bike. Any ideas?
Colorado Kid is offline  
Likes For Colorado Kid:
Old 11-05-21, 06:44 AM
  #2  
MNBikeCommuter
Senior Member
 
MNBikeCommuter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 855

Bikes: Cannondale '92 T600 '95 H600 '01 RT1000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Liked 109 Times in 82 Posts
I've been running Conti Gatorskins for years/decades. Maybe there's better out there, but they've served me very well for commuting and long rides.
MNBikeCommuter is offline  
Likes For MNBikeCommuter:
Old 11-05-21, 08:08 AM
  #3  
pdlamb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: northern Deep South
Posts: 8,895

Bikes: Fuji Touring, Novara Randonee

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2599 Post(s)
Liked 1,924 Times in 1,208 Posts
Panaracer Pacelas, followed closely by Gatorskins. The Pacela has a better ride, but the Gatorskins wear a bit better IME.

Save the lighter weight tires for summer rides in the country where there's not so much tire-puncturing trash on the roads (usually).
pdlamb is offline  
Old 11-06-21, 03:23 PM
  #4  
Colorado Kid
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 357 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 136 Times in 82 Posts
I some times take a long way home via one of the many "trails" around here. (Off road.) This is about 20% of the time. Can anyone recommend something that is good and can do double duty for mild off road commutes?
Colorado Kid is offline  
Old 11-06-21, 08:52 PM
  #5  
SquishyBiker
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 105

Bikes: 2014 Avanti Circa (Rd Dist), 2020 Giant Toughroad (Rd Tour), 2021 Trek Allant+ 8S (eCommute), 2021 Scott Aspect 940 (Mt HT), 2014 Santa Cruz Superlight 29er (Mt FS), 2022 Scott Spark 960 (Mt FS)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times in 26 Posts
I use a WTB Byway in a 700x44 - you can get them in a 700x34 as the narrowest size.
Apart from that, I'd brave the 20% on Conti GatorHardshells in a 700x28 - you're not going to have much area for tread for a fast rolling do it all tire, so go fast!
SquishyBiker is offline  
Old 11-07-21, 02:10 PM
  #6  
sdimattia
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: NY
Posts: 307

Bikes: Wabi Classic, Bombtrack Hook, Bombtrack Tension, Vitus Substance

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times in 56 Posts
Been running Panaracer Paselas (not PT version) and GravelKing Slicks for two years now with no issues. I think Gatorskins were mentioned - great tire for puncture protection but too slick for my needs. There's always Schwalbe Marathons too.
sdimattia is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 03:31 AM
  #7  
Germany_chris
I’m a little Surly
 
Germany_chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near the district
Posts: 2,422

Bikes: Two Cross Checks, a Karate Monkey, a Disc Trucker, and a VO Randonneur

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 1,294 Times in 647 Posts
I run Rene Herse but I don’t commute through a city
Germany_chris is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 03:47 AM
  #8  
CliffordK
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,547
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18350 Post(s)
Liked 4,502 Times in 3,346 Posts
I'm a fan of the Gator Hardshells (25mm). Longer wearing than the Gatorskins.

The Schwalbe Marathon Plus (HS 440) is a HEAVY tire, but should give you decent traction and durability. Available in 25mm and 28mm. Are there stocking issues?
CliffordK is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 08:15 AM
  #9  
pdlamb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: northern Deep South
Posts: 8,895

Bikes: Fuji Touring, Novara Randonee

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2599 Post(s)
Liked 1,924 Times in 1,208 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
I some times take a long way home via one of the many "trails" around here. (Off road.) This is about 20% of the time. Can anyone recommend something that is good and can do double duty for mild off road commutes?
More information, please? Are the trails close to flat, and the surfaces packed 1/4" gravel? Or are you climbing 15% grades on pot-holed dirt with deep sand patches at the bottom of the hills?
pdlamb is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 09:32 AM
  #10  
Colorado Kid
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 357 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 136 Times in 82 Posts
Flat trails in Boulder, what's that? They range from semi hilly to mountainous. The trail bed are dirt to fine gravel. It all depends on which route I use.. I don't need something with full blown knobs but also I don't need slicks. Any ideas?
Colorado Kid is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 10:26 AM
  #11  
ThermionicScott 
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,627

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3870 Post(s)
Liked 2,563 Times in 1,577 Posts
I have an affinity for the Panaracer family of tires: Pasela 700x28C on two bikes, Pacenti Pari-Moto 650x38B on another, Compass/Rene Herse 26"x1.8" Naches Pass on another, and Gravelking 650x48B on the newest addition (wife's new bike.) I also have an idle set of 26"x1-3/8" Col de la Vies that I'm considering putting on my old 3-speed, too..

Paselas were one of the few "supple" tanwall tires commonly available about 10-15 years ago before that style came back, but I'm not a big fan of the deeply-grooved tread. It looks as if designed to prevent hydroplaning, which is unnecessary and leads to cracking in the tread as it wears. Whenever feasible, I use the file-tread versions of Panaracer tires. (The "Fairweather for Traveler" is another option along these lines in 700x28C, but I haven't tried it yet.)

Another downside to this family of tires for commuting is that the tan sidewalls age like milk if you park the bike outside in sunlight all day. The sidewall latex dries up and flakes off, leaving the already-fragile sidewalls vulnerable to abrasion. It's rare that I wear through the tread of one of these tires before a sidewall injury takes it out. I get enough miles for the dollar that I can't complain too much.

We haven't put a lot of miles on the Gravelkings yet, but if I needed a durable file-tread commuter tire with decent rolling resistance and classic-ish looks, I'd look into another set of those.
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498

Last edited by ThermionicScott; 11-19-21 at 09:49 AM.
ThermionicScott is offline  
Old 11-08-21, 11:08 AM
  #12  
Leisesturm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,989
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2493 Post(s)
Liked 738 Times in 522 Posts
Always was a Schwalbe Marathon (not Plus!) guy until we bought a Trek tandem. Bontrager Hardcase clinchers come stock on Trek bikes. After living with Bonties in both 26" x 2" and 700C x 25mm for about 5 years now I don't really want anything else. Thing is all our favorite tires are getting really hard to find! I certainly can't find any Bonties anywhere and even most of the Schwalbe line is 'out of stock'. I don't know about Gatorskins but my luck with Conti tires has not been good The only tires I have ever had to boot were Conti somethings. But I may have to hold my nose and try a set of GS's because they, at least, seem to b somewhat attainable.
Leisesturm is online now  
Old 11-08-21, 12:25 PM
  #13  
Classtime 
Senior Member
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,696

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1946 Post(s)
Liked 2,004 Times in 1,105 Posts
For occasional trail use tires that are not slick, choose one of the Gravel Kings. I used to commute on 25mm Gatorskins which have the toughest sidewalls but not a nice ride. GS in 28 would likely ride better. Currently commuting 40 mile round trip on 28mm GP4000s pumped to 80 psi each Monday and have enjoyed them. (No gravel on my commute--only glass and other crap.)
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.

Last edited by Classtime; 11-08-21 at 01:05 PM.
Classtime is offline  
Old 11-16-21, 08:36 AM
  #14  
timdow
Miles to Go
 
timdow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego
Posts: 711

Bikes: 2022 Juiced Crosscurrent X, 2022 Fuji Touring, 1998 Schwinn Moab (drop bar conversion), 2010 LHT (Stolen)

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 151 Post(s)
Liked 145 Times in 95 Posts
If you intend to carry a significant load on your tours or commutes, I would recommend the Schwalbe Marathon Tour.
timdow is offline  
Old 11-16-21, 10:21 AM
  #15  
Leisesturm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,989
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2493 Post(s)
Liked 738 Times in 522 Posts
Actually, I can't seem to find GatorSkins either. This may not have been the best of times to begin a thread about 'recommendations'. If you can find a tire (two?) in the size you want. Buy it (them).
Leisesturm is online now  
Old 11-16-21, 11:12 AM
  #16  
BobbyG
Senior Member
 
BobbyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 5,971

Bikes: 2015 Charge Plug, 2007 Dahon Boardwalk, 1997 Nishiki Blazer, 1984 Nishiki International, 2006 Felt F65, 1989 Dahon Getaway V

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 1,676 Times in 827 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
I don't want to start a Flame War but I want 700+28 tires for my commuter/touring bike. Any ideas?
no
I run 700x28 smoothie street tires with tire liners on my old 12-speed road bike and it makes for nice flat-free commutes. It does pretty well on dirt, but not so much on gravel. Those are the fattest tires that will fit at the recommended inflation. I tried 700x32s but couldn't inflate the front past 65psi. Even then it would rub the fork "crotch" if there was any sort of bump in the road.
BobbyG is offline  
Old 11-18-21, 11:22 PM
  #17  
DiabloScott
It's MY mountain
 
DiabloScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,001

Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4335 Post(s)
Liked 2,977 Times in 1,614 Posts
I was in a pinch last summer and got some Bontrager AW1s. They ride nicer than I thought. My commute is mostly on trails with debris rather than gravel but they've held up pretty well too.

But I'm still going back to Challenge for next time.
DiabloScott is offline  
Old 11-26-21, 07:41 PM
  #18  
grosey
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Mayo, Ireland
Posts: 13

Bikes: Planet X EC130

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
I have an affinity for the Panaracer family of tires: Pasela 700x28C on two bikes, Pacenti Pari-Moto 650x38B on another, Compass/Rene Herse 26"x1.8" Naches Pass on another, and Gravelking 650x48B on the newest addition (wife's new bike.) I also have an idle set of 26"x1-3/8" Col de la Vies that I'm considering putting on my old 3-speed, too..

Paselas were one of the few "supple" tanwall tires commonly available about 10-15 years ago before that style came back, but I'm not a big fan of the deeply-grooved tread. It looks as if designed to prevent hydroplaning, which is unnecessary and leads to cracking in the tread as it wears. Whenever feasible, I use the file-tread versions of Panaracer tires. (The "Fairweather for Traveler" is another option along these lines in 700x28C, but I haven't tried it yet.)

Another downside to this family of tires for commuting is that the tan sidewalls age like milk if you park the bike outside in sunlight all day. The sidewall latex dries up and flakes off, leaving the already-fragile sidewalls vulnerable to abrasion. It's rare that I wear through the tread of one of these tires before a sidewall injury takes it out. I get enough miles for the dollar that I can't complain too much.

We haven't put a lot of miles on the Gravelkings yet, but if I needed a durable file-tread commuter tire with decent rolling resistance and classic-ish looks, I'd look into another set of those.
I use the "Fairweather for Traveller" 700x28's on my 'good' road bike, I originally bought them for my commuter but there was no way they were fitting on my wheels. They replaced Schwable Ones after I split a sidewall. They are very fast rolling and just feel nice to ride on. I had never heard of them before but came across them on the Planet X website, but have never seen them on there again.
grosey is offline  
Likes For grosey:
Old 11-27-21, 05:37 AM
  #19  
GhenghisKahn
OwainGyndwr
 
GhenghisKahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Wellington/Porirua, New Zealand
Posts: 122

Bikes: 90 Fisher 3x7 hardtail, 2016 Reid 1x7 commuter, 2017 Viva 46x18 fixed gear, 93 2x8 Avanti Kona

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked 67 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
I don't want to start a Flame War but I want 700+28 tires for my commuter/touring bike. Any ideas?
Been cycle commuting since 1987. Have tried them all over the years. Even airless. Everything is a compromise. All my touring/utility and commuting bikes have 28 or 32mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus. They all have Mr Tuffy liners in the rear tires as well. Since starting to use SMPs in 2000 I've had 3 flats. 2 of them were pinch flats. The other was the tire liner cut into the tube over time. No punctures in over 20 years of using SMPs.
GhenghisKahn is offline  
Old 11-27-21, 07:37 AM
  #20  
Colorado Kid
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 357 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 136 Times in 82 Posts
Great infor.! Now that cool weather and Snow is around the corner, please tell me I can hold off on buying Studded tires a little longer. (Or maybe I should ask Santa for a pair?) I like my "new" tires and look forward to buying some of the ones many of the members on this list wrote about. Should I have break down and get Studded tires( After mounting some nice Trek All Condition tires on my bike) what is a good studded tire? (26+2.1 )
Colorado Kid is offline  
Old 11-27-21, 11:57 AM
  #21  
ThermionicScott 
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,627

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3870 Post(s)
Liked 2,563 Times in 1,577 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
Great infor.! Now that cool weather and Snow is around the corner, please tell me I can hold off on buying Studded tires a little longer. (Or maybe I should ask Santa for a pair?) I like my "new" tires and look forward to buying some of the ones many of the members on this list wrote about. Should I have break down and get Studded tires( After mounting some nice Trek All Condition tires on my bike) what is a good studded tire? (26+2.1 )
My first set of studded tires were Kenda Klondike Wide, in 26"x2.1": https://bicycle.kendatire.com/en-us/...klondike-wide/

They were heavy, noisy, and slow, but I don't think you can get around that with studded winter tires! They were well-made, with carbide-tipped studs. I only switched to a different brand/tire because I didn't have clearance for fenders with the Kendas.
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498
ThermionicScott is offline  
Old 11-28-21, 09:13 PM
  #22  
GhenghisKahn
OwainGyndwr
 
GhenghisKahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Wellington/Porirua, New Zealand
Posts: 122

Bikes: 90 Fisher 3x7 hardtail, 2016 Reid 1x7 commuter, 2017 Viva 46x18 fixed gear, 93 2x8 Avanti Kona

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked 67 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
Great infor.! Now that cool weather and Snow is around the corner, please tell me I can hold off on buying Studded tires a little longer. (Or maybe I should ask Santa for a pair?) I like my "new" tires and look forward to buying some of the ones many of the members on this list wrote about. Should I have break down and get Studded tires( After mounting some nice Trek All Condition tires on my bike) what is a good studded tire? (26+2.1 )
When I lived in Pittsburgh I bought a set of 2.1 carbide studded off craigslist for 75.00. Put them on my backup mtb. Kept the psi at 35 lbs. Rode them in heavy snow and slush days. They were slow as you can imagine, but really, really grippy and stable. I loved them. Sold the bike upon moving to New Zealand, but if weather here necessitated having them I'd get them again in a minute. They add a level of fun to winter cycling.
GhenghisKahn is offline  
Old 11-29-21, 09:35 AM
  #23  
Clyde1820
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 1,820

Bikes: 1996 Trek 970 ZX Single Track 2x11

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 614 Post(s)
Liked 564 Times in 428 Posts
Originally Posted by Colorado Kid
Flat trails in Boulder, what's that? They range from semi hilly to mountainous. The trail bed are dirt to fine gravel. It all depends on which route I use.. I don't need something with full blown knobs but also I don't need slicks. Any ideas?
I've had these, and did about 5-10% on mild off-pavement and reduced-grip surfaces, but short of outright gravel and softer-packed dirt trails. Worked fine. No t the lightest tires out there, but they have really good flat protection.

Continental Ride Tour -- available in ETRTO 28-622, in BLK/BLK and BLK/reflex -- https://www.continental-tires.com/bi...tour/ride-tour .
Clyde1820 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.