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Old 09-22-21, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
Oh, so you're one of those people?
Yes. I pair well with hoppy ales and/or good bourbon.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Everyone knows red pepper is fast.
For my own safety, I use freshly-ground black pepper for MTB rides.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Hi, I am new here.

When someone jumps on my wheel without asking, I dial it up to 400 watts and keep it pegged until they disappear. Am I being rude?
Droping the hamer, so to speak.
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As an aside, the last time I tried to ride a wheelsucker off my wheel, I ended up dragging him back up to the back of the fast club ride we'd both been dropped by, and immediately blew up and got left for dead.

At least he thanked me, though actually HELPING might have been nice.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Droping the hamer, so to speak.
not sure if those typos meant to read:
"dropping the hammer"
or
"doping the hemo"
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No typos my friend. No typos.
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Originally Posted by stuff shredman
not sure if those typos meant to read:
"dropping the hammer"
or
"doping the hemo"
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Goes back to a former poster who had massive guads.
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Originally Posted by big john
Goes back to a former poster who had massive guads.
those sound scary
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Old 09-22-21, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stuff shredman
"doping the hemo"
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I like it!
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Originally Posted by cyclezen
It would seem the way to interpolate this thread, given the variety of responses, is to not ride on another's wheel, whom you don;t know or haven't had some positive interact beforehand...
LOL !
Thx
Yuri
it was more the tone of the thread than the topic.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
I haven't read this whole threat and I suppose it's already been mentioned, but don't just pull up and start drafting some random woman who's out on a solo ride.
That's especially creepy.
Two weeks ago my wife had a guy trying to draft without word one. She was very much creeped out and didn’t know if he was a stalker, perv or just an idiot. Because of severe RA she now rides a pedal assis e-bike. With the guy slowly gaining, she dropped the ‘hamma’ and sped up to 23 and kept it there.

When we ride together, she usually rides about 18 MPH.

Morale to the story, women and their husbands, don’t like them being drafted if you are a stranger.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Hi, I am new here.

When someone jumps on my wheel without asking, I dial it up to 400 watts and keep it pegged until they disappear. Am I being rude?
If you only do 395, then yes. That’s considered teasing.
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Old 09-23-21, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bshell
When you are riding and some stranger passes you, is it ok to catch up and draft behind them? Is this considered bad manners? Or is there some proper way to do this that is polite? I do this from time to time without problem but the other day I did it and the guy in front slammed on his brakes so of course I slammed into him and both of us were very annoyed with the other. He did it on purpose because he thought I was a creep for drafting behind him. I had no idea this was not allowed. So what is the right way to draft behind a stranger when out and about?
I've never done this and consider it to be rude on your part.
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Old 09-23-21, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
I've never done this and consider it to be rude on your part.
I have.

On a long moderate-grade climb, I had a guy come up behind me and sit on my wheel for a while without a word. I just maintained my pace until he decided he wanted to go a little faster, and he started rolling past me. I lifted my pace and sat on his wheel until I needed to back off when the grade kicked up. I thanked him for the wheel, and he wished me a nice day. We both went on with our ride.

Another time, on a long false flat, I could see a rider about 100 yard ahead of me, moving at a similar fast tempo pace. I turned up the heat a bit and caught up to him. I offered a greeting as I went by, and he jumped on my wheel without invitation. I pulled for a little while, and then he rolled ahead and pulled for a little while. Not another word was shared while we were both working hard and enjoying going faster than we would have on our own. A bit further up the road, he turned off to continue his ride in a different direction.

Zero people were offended in either scenario.

Some of you folks seem pretty uptight.
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Old 09-23-21, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I have.

On a long moderate-grade climb, I had a guy come up behind me and sit on my wheel for a while without a word. I just maintained my pace until he decided he wanted to go a little faster, and he started rolling past me. I lifted my pace and sat on his wheel until I needed to back off when the grade kicked up. I thanked him for the wheel, and he wished me a nice day. We both went on with our ride.

Another time, on a long false flat, I could see a rider about 100 yard ahead of me, moving at a similar fast tempo pace. I turned up the heat a bit and caught up to him. I offered a greeting as I went by, and he jumped on my wheel without invitation. I pulled for a little while, and then he rolled ahead and pulled for a little while. Not another word was shared while we were both working hard and enjoying going faster than we would have on our own. A bit further up the road, he turned off to continue his ride in a different direction.

Zero people were offended in either scenario.

Some of you folks seem pretty uptight.
Wait a sec. Are you telling us it never came to f-bombs or fisticuffs? How is that possible?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Wait a sec. Are you telling us it never came to f-bombs or fisticuffs? How is that possible?
Not yet. I make no promises about the future. I might suddenly turn into a @$$hole.
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Surprised you didn't yell, "Accelerate!"
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I have.

On a long moderate-grade climb, I had a guy come up behind me and sit on my wheel for a while without a word. I just maintained my pace until he decided he wanted to go a little faster, and he started rolling past me. I lifted my pace and sat on his wheel until I needed to back off when the grade kicked up. I thanked him for the wheel, and he wished me a nice day. We both went on with our ride.

Another time, on a long false flat, I could see a rider about 100 yard ahead of me, moving at a similar fast tempo pace. I turned up the heat a bit and caught up to him. I offered a greeting as I went by, and he jumped on my wheel without invitation. I pulled for a little while, and then he rolled ahead and pulled for a little while. Not another word was shared while we were both working hard and enjoying going faster than we would have on our own. A bit further up the road, he turned off to continue his ride in a different direction..
Have to agree. I have drafted dozens of strangers as well as had just as many grab my wheel. Usually we trade pulls and end up chatting or wishing each other a good ride. Have never run into someone who has objected, gotten mouthy about it or took off like a pissed off demon. Have done a lot of 100+ mile events and its easy to tell who has their act together based on their tempo and bike handling and never had an issue. It could be the part of the country I live in,

A few weeks ago I was chasing a guy around Mercer Island, but he was pretty fast and had no chance in catching him. He passed a guy ahead of me, which I passed and he jumped my wheel and said, man that guy is strong. We started trading pulls and picked up our pace but still couldn’t catch the flyer. After 10 minutes he came to his turn and he wished me well and said we gave it a good effort. After another few minutes I caught up with the flyer stopped at a 1 lane construction project waiting for the flagger to let him go. I told him, how I had been chasing him half way across the I90 bridge and halfway down the island with another guy. He said he was doing an all out training ride and was going to just spin back home and recover. We chatted for a while and wished each other well. When we allowed to proceed, he disappeared behind me never to be seen. That night I got a friend request on Strava from the same guy who saw me on Fly-by. We have kept in contact since, even though there is no way I could ever ride his pace and he being 20 years younger but its cool that we were and are able to connect.
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Originally Posted by F22c_legs
if you'd do it to a guy, why not a woman? It's called equality.
If that is a joke, it’s a poor one, or one from the 60s. When my wife is out riding and a guy starts to draft or pace her, it makes her extremely uncomfortable. Women, whether walking or on a bike do not being followed, This is not too hard a concept to grasp.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
If that is a joke, it’s a poor one, or one from the 60s. When my wife is out riding and a guy starts to draft or pace her, it makes her extremely uncomfortable. Women, whether walking or on a bike do not being followed, This is not too hard a concept to grasp.
technically he is right. but the reality is that you are right. i would not do it.
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Originally Posted by F22c_legs
Men have feelings too, ya know. Men can feel uncomfortable being drafted as well....
Yes, that's what this whole thread has been about.
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Though, obviously, women have additional concerns over and above simply not being run into by inattentive wheelsuckers, and one would have to be a creep not to acknowledge that.
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Originally Posted by F22c_legs
Men have feelings too, ya know. Men can feel uncomfortable being drafted as well....
Yes sensitive new age guys have feelings too and I would like to acknowledge their needs. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Inclusivenesses is not exclusive.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Though, obviously, women have additional concerns over and above simply not being run into by inattentive wheelsuckers, and one would have to be a creep not to acknowledge that.
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Originally Posted by F22c_legs
if you'd do it to a guy, why not a woman? It's called equality.
If you have to ask why, I'm pretty sure you're not going to get it.
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