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New Challenges
After 11 rando seasons, including three PBPs, I'm trying a new challenge: transitioning from recumbent to upright.
So far, after five 200k perms, the verdict is: this is going to be hard. New respect for my rando friends. Getting bike fit dialed in, needing to build up upper body strength, losing aero advantage, pressure on hands and butt, using different muscles. Right now a 300k looks daunting, more than that i can't think about yet. I have a SR and 1200 penciled in. It's going to be something.
So far, after five 200k perms, the verdict is: this is going to be hard. New respect for my rando friends. Getting bike fit dialed in, needing to build up upper body strength, losing aero advantage, pressure on hands and butt, using different muscles. Right now a 300k looks daunting, more than that i can't think about yet. I have a SR and 1200 penciled in. It's going to be something.
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Climbing is harder on a recumbent, isn't it?
Are you using aero bars? If not, would you consider trying? For me, they make a big difference in terms of comfort, especially on long flat stretches. The additional aero advantage is also a nice bonus, but the focus is on comfort.
Are you using aero bars? If not, would you consider trying? For me, they make a big difference in terms of comfort, especially on long flat stretches. The additional aero advantage is also a nice bonus, but the focus is on comfort.
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What was the precipitating event that led you to switch to the dark side?
Anyone can ride a 400k, you just have to give up on the idea of sleeping. 27 hours is plenty of time. And there's nothing like the second sunrise on a ride. Longer than that is a problem.
Anyone can ride a 400k, you just have to give up on the idea of sleeping. 27 hours is plenty of time. And there's nothing like the second sunrise on a ride. Longer than that is a problem.
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I picked up a used recumbent a couple of years ago and rode a late season 400k. I was surprised at how different it was. I rode about a thousand miles in a month and was still about a mile-an-hour slower than on my uprights. It's probably easier to move from upright to recumbent than vice-versa, so good luck. I rando-friend of mine has been trying to make the switch to an upright for the last few seasons and has really struggled.
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I remember you switched, but as I understand it the DF to 'bent switch is more difficult for most people. OTOH, not too many people switch to DF from 'bent.
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Just to point out, this is not the same for everyone, so don't assume that other people riding uprights are automatically dealing with the same issues.
For example, I started off riding on a wide cruiser saddle, switched to a pre-aged brooks, and it was comfortable from the get-go. In blue jeans, too. So it wasn't like that took a lot of experimenting or sit-bone measuring or something. Was my butt pre-toughened from the cruiser saddles? I honestly don't know.
Meanwhile, I've talked to some of the recumbent riders who never got comfortable on any saddle. So go figure.
On some of the hand issues, that has cropped up on some rides, not others. One thing that hurts me is if I'm drafting a lot in a ride, then I wind up riding on the hoods the whole time, and not being able to move my hands around causes more problems.
Anyway, work it out as best you can, but it's different for everyone.
For example, I started off riding on a wide cruiser saddle, switched to a pre-aged brooks, and it was comfortable from the get-go. In blue jeans, too. So it wasn't like that took a lot of experimenting or sit-bone measuring or something. Was my butt pre-toughened from the cruiser saddles? I honestly don't know.
Meanwhile, I've talked to some of the recumbent riders who never got comfortable on any saddle. So go figure.
On some of the hand issues, that has cropped up on some rides, not others. One thing that hurts me is if I'm drafting a lot in a ride, then I wind up riding on the hoods the whole time, and not being able to move my hands around causes more problems.
Anyway, work it out as best you can, but it's different for everyone.
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Climbing is harder on a recumbent, isn't it?
Are you using aero bars? If not, would you consider trying? For me, they make a big difference in terms of comfort, especially on long flat stretches. The additional aero advantage is also a nice bonus, but the focus is on comfort.
Are you using aero bars? If not, would you consider trying? For me, they make a big difference in terms of comfort, especially on long flat stretches. The additional aero advantage is also a nice bonus, but the focus is on comfort.
I picked up a used recumbent a couple of years ago and rode a late season 400k. I was surprised at how different it was. I rode about a thousand miles in a month and was still about a mile-an-hour slower than on my uprights. It's probably easier to move from upright to recumbent than vice-versa, so good luck. I rando-friend of mine has been trying to make the switch to an upright for the last few seasons and has really struggled.
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There were a few years during which I did most of my long distance riding on a recumbent. It was fast on the flats, and comfortable, but it never felt 'normal' to me and I continued to commute on an upright bike (at that time, most of my commuting was on a folding bike).
I just said it was 'comfortable,' but nonetheless I don't think I ever really 'got comfortable' on the recumbent. Does that make any sense? It was squirrely, visibility was limited (I couldn't see behind me, even though I'm good at using a mirror; and I wasn't sure cars would see me) and my hands were always falling asleep. I especially disliked the pressure on my lower back --when my feet would press hard on the pedals, that would push my lower back against the seat. It felt fine on my feet, which are used to supporting my weight, but on my lower back it felt all wrong. So for me, anyway, switching back to the upright bike was 'back to normal' and I can't say I've missed the recumbent much at all.
Obviously you did better on the 'bent than I did! Switching back may be hard but not impossible.
I just said it was 'comfortable,' but nonetheless I don't think I ever really 'got comfortable' on the recumbent. Does that make any sense? It was squirrely, visibility was limited (I couldn't see behind me, even though I'm good at using a mirror; and I wasn't sure cars would see me) and my hands were always falling asleep. I especially disliked the pressure on my lower back --when my feet would press hard on the pedals, that would push my lower back against the seat. It felt fine on my feet, which are used to supporting my weight, but on my lower back it felt all wrong. So for me, anyway, switching back to the upright bike was 'back to normal' and I can't say I've missed the recumbent much at all.
Obviously you did better on the 'bent than I did! Switching back may be hard but not impossible.
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There were a few years during which I did most of my long distance riding on a recumbent. It was fast on the flats, and comfortable, but it never felt 'normal' to me and I continued to commute on an upright bike (at that time, most of my commuting was on a folding bike).
I just said it was 'comfortable,' but nonetheless I don't think I ever really 'got comfortable' on the recumbent. Does that make any sense? It was squirrely, visibility was limited (I couldn't see behind me, even though I'm good at using a mirror; and I wasn't sure cars would see me) and my hands were always falling asleep. I especially disliked the pressure on my lower back --when my feet would press hard on the pedals, that would push my lower back against the seat. It felt fine on my feet, which are used to supporting my weight, but on my lower back it felt all wrong. So for me, anyway, switching back to the upright bike was 'back to normal' and I can't say I've missed the recumbent much at all.
Obviously you did better on the 'bent than I did! Switching back may be hard but not impossible.
I just said it was 'comfortable,' but nonetheless I don't think I ever really 'got comfortable' on the recumbent. Does that make any sense? It was squirrely, visibility was limited (I couldn't see behind me, even though I'm good at using a mirror; and I wasn't sure cars would see me) and my hands were always falling asleep. I especially disliked the pressure on my lower back --when my feet would press hard on the pedals, that would push my lower back against the seat. It felt fine on my feet, which are used to supporting my weight, but on my lower back it felt all wrong. So for me, anyway, switching back to the upright bike was 'back to normal' and I can't say I've missed the recumbent much at all.
Obviously you did better on the 'bent than I did! Switching back may be hard but not impossible.