The death of rim brakes, disc brakes now unanimous in the pro peloton...
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I thought the thread had run it's course. I guess I was wrong.

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It is well known among pro riders that none of them use the front brake and only have them on their bikes because Big Cycling demands it. As a rule, the cable is not actually connected to the brake, to prevent accidents. Of course, you unpaid cyclists are clueless .... except, apparently, @Calsun.

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I'll shovel some more coal into the box. Let's get it rolling.
How long before we see ABS? Even more important, how long before we see the calipers painted to match the frame like on a tuner car?
How long before we see ABS? Even more important, how long before we see the calipers painted to match the frame like on a tuner car?

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Perhaps I am slow to understand but that would not be a first for me. Pro riders are forced to ride discs even though they don't provide a competitive advantage for the rider and it's a conspiracy by Big Bike. Why are tubulars still popular and a majority on the Pro Tour? Is there some big push from Big Bike to get us to switch back to tubs once this Tubeless scam is over?
Actually, discs are a competitive disadvantage, unless you are racing in some kind of made-up event which involves filling your panniers with bricks and tearing down long descents in the rain. Check the embarrassing results in the last Olympic road race... despite what must have been intense sponsor pressure, and the number of riders not on discs being reduced to less than 10, 2 of the 3 podium spots were captured by the Luddites on rim brakes.
Tubulars? to be more precise, tubulars are not 'popular', but at the highest levels of the sport, they are exclusively used by every rider on every stage in every race. Road, track, cross and even MTB. Again, the purpose of the bike industry is to sell new expensive stuff to dentists with gold cards, and weekend warriors do not want to deal with the 'mess' of gluing tires. The industry really does not want to manufacture tubular gear for tiny group that gets their stuff for free. However, clinchers are so performance and safety disadvantaged that they will never 'catch up' to tubulars, and the bike industry reluctantly has to keep making this stuff to win races.
BTW: the insurmountable problem with clinchers is not the tires, but the inferior rim profile. Heavy, fragile, causes pinch flats, poor at distributing heat, and is susceptible to excess tire inflation pressures.

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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Listen: the pro tour exists to sell beer, sketchy lotteries and banks (same thing) and bike bling to dentists with gold cards.

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I take it you do not actually ride anywhere with your bike.
The first thing one learns with a road bike is to not depend on the front brake or it will send the rider over the handlebars.
It is why the rear brake lever is on the right side as that is the stronger and dominant hand for most people.
The first thing one learns with a road bike is to not depend on the front brake or it will send the rider over the handlebars.
It is why the rear brake lever is on the right side as that is the stronger and dominant hand for most people.
1) I ride a lot of places and do not get thrown over the bars every time I grab the front brake lever. I must be lucky to be alive.
2) Pretty sure that wasn't even in the top 10 list of things.
3) Like every single other bike in the UK and Australia, my rear brake is cabled to the left lever as standard.

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I feel like I don't need to provide a link about MTB racing not using tubulars. That should be quite obvious.

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Untrue: https://cyclingtips.com/2019/07/tube...our-de-france/
I feel like I don't need to provide a link about MTB racing not using tubulars. That should be quite obvious.
I feel like I don't need to provide a link about MTB racing not using tubulars. That should be quite obvious.
I knew tubulars were safer .... apparently I was mistaken in my belief that they were also faster.
That definitely makes me question all those folks who swear by tubulars in daily road riding.

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I take it you do not actually ride anywhere with your bike. The first thing one learns with a road bike is to not depend on the front brake or it will send the rider over the handlebars. It is why the rear brake lever is on the right side as that is the stronger and dominant hand for most people. With mountain bikes it is a different situation with trail riding but that is a special case.

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this entire post tells me you dont ride a bike.
I take it you do not actually ride anywhere with your bike. The first thing one learns with a road bike is to not depend on the front brake or it will send the rider over the handlebars. It is why the rear brake lever is on the right side as that is the stronger and dominant hand for most people. With mountain bikes it is a different situation with trail riding but that is a special case.

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I am a bit surprised by this entire thread. All else aside disk brakes simply stop faster in a more uniform way than rim drakes. Certainly the case for me having both set ups.

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I take it you do not actually ride anywhere with your bike. The first thing one learns with a road bike is to not depend on the front brake or it will send the rider over the handlebars. It is why the rear brake lever is on the right side as that is the stronger and dominant hand for most people. With mountain bikes it is a different situation with trail riding but that is a special case. Track bike have no front brake and no rear brake and this has always been the case. Maybe it is time to expand your limited knowledge.
My first serious bike had tubular tires or "sewups" and these are glued onto the rims. With too much heating of the rim from the rim brakes the glue softens and the tire can be dislodged from the rim. On on long downhill grade I found myself having to make a rapid stop with a car in the wrong lane and I peeled the front tire completely off the rim. More than a little unsettling and I was happy to have not crashed the bike and only did some damage to the rim.
My first serious bike had tubular tires or "sewups" and these are glued onto the rims. With too much heating of the rim from the rim brakes the glue softens and the tire can be dislodged from the rim. On on long downhill grade I found myself having to make a rapid stop with a car in the wrong lane and I peeled the front tire completely off the rim. More than a little unsettling and I was happy to have not crashed the bike and only did some damage to the rim.

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this is utter tripe. The first thing one learns on a road bike is that the front brake does ~75% of the braking. Hard braking with the rear pretty much guarantees a rear wheel skid with subsequent loss of control. If one can’t brake hard on the front brake without going over the bars, one should go back to Braking School.
The next bit of real forum hillarity will ensue when the pro peloton switches to tubeless some years down the road (because with inserts and disc brakes, they're as safe as tubulars while offering lower rolling resistance). Expect much ire for dentists and shills of Big Tire.
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Edit: apologies, reading the subsequent posts I now understand you were just taking the piss. But some people are so stupid around here that I actually thought it was for real, LOL!
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Actually, discs are a competitive disadvantage, unless you are racing in some kind of made-up event which involves filling your panniers with bricks and tearing down long descents in the rain. Check the embarrassing results in the last Olympic road race... despite what must have been intense sponsor pressure, and the number of riders not on discs being reduced to less than 10, 2 of the 3 podium spots were captured by the Luddites on rim brakes.
Tubulars? to be more precise, tubulars are not 'popular', but at the highest levels of the sport, they are exclusively used by every rider on every stage in every race. Road, track, cross and even MTB. Again, the purpose of the bike industry is to sell new expensive stuff to dentists with gold cards, and weekend warriors do not want to deal with the 'mess' of gluing tires. The industry really does not want to manufacture tubular gear for tiny group that gets their stuff for free. However, clinchers are so performance and safety disadvantaged that they will never 'catch up' to tubulars, and the bike industry reluctantly has to keep making this stuff to win races.
BTW: the insurmountable problem with clinchers is not the tires, but the inferior rim profile. Heavy, fragile, causes pinch flats, poor at distributing heat, and is susceptible to excess tire inflation pressures.
Tubulars? to be more precise, tubulars are not 'popular', but at the highest levels of the sport, they are exclusively used by every rider on every stage in every race. Road, track, cross and even MTB. Again, the purpose of the bike industry is to sell new expensive stuff to dentists with gold cards, and weekend warriors do not want to deal with the 'mess' of gluing tires. The industry really does not want to manufacture tubular gear for tiny group that gets their stuff for free. However, clinchers are so performance and safety disadvantaged that they will never 'catch up' to tubulars, and the bike industry reluctantly has to keep making this stuff to win races.
BTW: the insurmountable problem with clinchers is not the tires, but the inferior rim profile. Heavy, fragile, causes pinch flats, poor at distributing heat, and is susceptible to excess tire inflation pressures.
If anything it's rim brakes that are now barely clinging on due to a few pro teams still using them. In the last couple of years rim brakes have almost become an elitist badge item to say I'm "real pro" and not a "dentist with a gold card" disc brake muppet, LOL.

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