Anyone else keeping their rim brake frames ?
01-18-23, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
As the Luddites call from the sidelines that rim brakes are superior and that mass-produced Italian race bikes from the '70s and '80s provide an ethereal riding experience, the world will move on.
01-18-23, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
And what's the most popular sub forum here? Oh, right...
Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
highly skewed demographic toward the elderly [and] does not represent what is happening within the sport or the consumer's wants.
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Originally Posted by smd4
And what's the most popular sub forum here? Oh, right...
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Originally Posted by smd4
Don’t say that. Disc brake people won’t understand that your brakes work well. They’ll just think you don’t know how to use them.
01-18-23, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
And what's the most popular sub forum here? Oh, right...
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
From your previous posts, you feel that a mass-produced 80's Cinelli is the pinnacle of bicycle evolution and any progress since then is marketing BS.
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Thanks for explaining. I've never ridden a bike with rim brakes so it's useful to know.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Come again?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
We need a sarcasm font.
Its used on another forum I frequent and is invaluable.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
** <-- sarcasterisks
Its used on another forum I frequent and is invaluable.
Its used on another forum I frequent and is invaluable.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Come again?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Actually I don't think that at all. Certainly bikes are far lighter today and have features we only dreamed about in the 1980s. But they also completely lack any classiness.
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
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Originally Posted by smd4
Actually I don't think that at all. Certainly bikes are far lighter today and have features we only dreamed about in the 1980s. But they also completely lack any classiness.
01-18-23, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
What defines "classiness"?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
01-18-23, 05:19 PM
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I have two very old bikes that have rim brakes and that is not a problem. For years the only bikes with better brakes were tandems with the weight of two people. Later the advent of mountain bikes made hydraulic disc brakes very attractive. On a standard single person road bike the use of disc brakes is overkill. With mountain bikes the use of disc brakes makes it much easier to use different wheels with no need to reposition the brake calipers.
01-18-23, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
That's not a fact, just your opinion.
01-18-23, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Maybe, maybe not. The better term is probably "off the shelf."
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It's all I have.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I have two bikes with disc brakes and one with rim brakes. I enjoy riding my rim brakes bike as much as my disc brakes bikes. I see nothing wromg with properly adjusted rim brakes. The only advantages of disc brakes is they prevent rim wear.
The difference is huge. On the flats or short down hill ok rim brakes just as good.
I have a gravel bike with several wheel sets of tires of different sizes. It's so easy to just swap wheel set with it. I doubt a rim brake can accommodate 25mm road tire to 50+ gravel tire. If it can it would be a pain to adjust each time.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Actually I don't think that at all. Certainly bikes are far lighter today and have features we only dreamed about in the 1980s. But they also completely lack any classiness.
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
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It’s a much tried and true method except for rainy days.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
Once batch production started in the 70s there were many people involved in the manufacturing of each frame. Tubes were mitred and prepped in batches based on frame size by one or more individuals. Rear triangles were batch made separately. Forks were batch made by another. Luggs were prepped and cleaned up. Main triangle were made in lots based on size. Frames were then joined in another section. Welds were cleaned up by another and cold set for alignment. Finally decals and paint done by another. Each of these workstations would have been stafffed by one or more production workers. The urban myth that the founder or a single artisan was behind these Italian bike boom bikes from the 70s on is nothing but an effective urban legend to create a sense of exclusivity.
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Originally Posted by smd4
That’ not what the Cinelli histories I’ve read say. Not really prepared to believe you over them.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
I am more inclined to believe a random stranger on the Internet than I am inclined to believe a company’s own marketing rhetoric.
