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Old 01-25-23, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Unless the light never cycles, and stays green for the more trafficked road until something triggers the other light ....
Several times I have sat at the light where Rt 35 Ts into Rt 92 in San Mateo County while the light cycles without ever giving me a green. No way to go, because the traffic on 92 is constant, heavy, and fast. The only thing that saved me was that eventually cars pulled up behind me over induction loops and triggered the light.
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Old 01-25-23, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rsbob
Then there are the left lane signals which require more than a bike to trip the element to change the light. I even try leaning the bike down and over the lines and still no love. So I sit/stand there as the cars go round-robin over and over, with still no car behind me to trip the sensor. So…. instead of trying to cross back over the two lanes to my right, I do the illegal and take the turn when the oncoming lanes are clear. Not proud but am not going to stand there through who knows how many light cycles.
I'm in Washington like you - as long as you wait through one cycle of the light this is explicitly legal here. RCW 46.61.184: Bicycle, moped, or street legal motorcycle at intersection with inoperative vehicle detection device. (wa.gov)
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Old 01-26-23, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by retswerb
I'm in Washington like you - as long as you wait through one cycle of the light this is explicitly legal here. RCW 46.61.184: Bicycle, moped, or street legal motorcycle at intersection with inoperative vehicle detection device. (wa.gov)
Thank you! Good to know.
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Old 01-26-23, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by retswerb
I'm in Washington like you - as long as you wait through one cycle of the light this is explicitly legal here. RCW 46.61.184: Bicycle, moped, or street legal motorcycle at intersection with inoperative vehicle detection device. (wa.gov)
The big question here is what is the definition of "one cycle" if the traffic light never cycles?
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Old 01-26-23, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lombard
The big question here is what is the definition of "one cycle" if the traffic light never cycles?
Yeah .... there are some of these. Nothing to do except wait a while and then go. If I ever got ticketed, I would go back, time the light, and bring the video to court showing that the light would not change in any reasonable period of time.

I don't stress much over those lights .... when there are no cars around, the worst thing that could happen would be getting a citation. The intersections which worry me are the busy ones where drivers are more interested in getting ahead than in not hitting a cyclist.
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Old 01-26-23, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Jug handle?
A jug handle would essentially function the same way, although with some official infrastructure.
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Old 01-26-23, 01:03 PM
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I do whatever is safest even if it takes more time. Be aware that motorists are conditioned to look for other cars and not for someone on a bike and easily cross in front or hit a rider. In heavy traffic the traffic lights work for the cyclist much of the time but there are many places with no pedestrian activation buttons and one is left to wait for a red light and then wait to see what the motorists will do.
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