View Poll Results: Do You Use the Large Front Chainring/Large Rear Cog Combination?
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Do You Use the Large Front Chainring/Large Rear Cog Combination?
09-10-21, 06:17 PM
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Do You Use the Large Front Chainring/Large Rear Cog Combination?
I just want to know.
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09-10-21, 06:20 PM
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x-chaining isn't advised, but it happens.
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09-10-21, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Troul
x-chaining isn't advised, but it happens.
09-10-21, 06:36 PM
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My question is .... do you?
09-10-21, 06:37 PM
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Often, yes.
09-10-21, 06:45 PM
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Yes. I set up my bikes to do it without issue.
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09-10-21, 06:46 PM
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The skinny chain on my 11 speed free-hub doesn’t like it, but the chains on my 5 and 6 speed free wheels don’t care.
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09-10-21, 06:52 PM
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no. big front ring and big back is too noisy and sounds like the chain is going to jump off
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09-10-21, 06:52 PM
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I have Rival CX1 which is 1x, so YES.
09-10-21, 06:58 PM
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Shimano 600 don't play that. Crakakakakakak
09-10-21, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR
I have Rival CX1 which is 1x, so YES.
09-10-21, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR
I have Rival CX1 which is 1x, so YES.
09-10-21, 07:00 PM
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Depends on the bike gearing, but in general no.
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09-10-21, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip Flop Rider
that's a little different but still a big contrast I'm sure
09-10-21, 09:08 PM
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It is called cross chaining and it is not good for anything. If you are needing to be in such a crazy gear you probably should have shifted it a long while ago. It is one thing on a 1x drivetrain but 2x or 3x is just silly. You are causing more stress and strain on components and wasting money. If you find yourself only in the bigger ring, time to go 1x.
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09-10-21, 10:02 PM
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Big-Big for me is 52x25 = 55 gear inches
once I get to needing anything under 60 inches, I would be anticipating more uphill grade and already in the small ring (and back down the cassette to a smaller cog...)
If I'm humpin up a rise, out of the saddle, and near the top, I never go below the gear just below, 52x23 - 60 inches, and tough out the remainder.
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Yuri - that may change as I start getting older... LOL!
once I get to needing anything under 60 inches, I would be anticipating more uphill grade and already in the small ring (and back down the cassette to a smaller cog...)
If I'm humpin up a rise, out of the saddle, and near the top, I never go below the gear just below, 52x23 - 60 inches, and tough out the remainder.
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Yuri - that may change as I start getting older... LOL!
09-10-21, 10:12 PM
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Never. I don’t go past 3rd gear (third to the right of the largest cog) before changing the range. There is no need as there are other gears that are similar enough to not have to use that gear combination.
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09-10-21, 11:19 PM
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Not deliberately but I know it happens under duress.
I know from fast group rides on roller coaster terrain on windy days or in noisy traffic that I can't always hear the sound of cross-chaining, and have inadvertently shifted into the big/big combo when sprinting and closing gaps. So I always err on the side of caution with chains and leave them a link or two longer than some cyclists might. If I'm worried about chain slap damaging the chainstay I'll put on some frame protector tape.
Riding solo it would be unusual for me to shift into the big/big combo. I'm rarely in a big rush, and can hear the distinctive sound of cross chaining. But in a fast group ride and loud ambient noise, yeah, it can happen.
Even cyclists who claim they never use the big/big combo will suddenly claim "product defect!" when they accidentally shift into the big/big combo with a chain that's too short, and it rips off the rear derailleur, maybe damages the spokes and frame. Seen it a couple of times with cyclists who swore they didn't shift into the big/big combo, and claimed the derailleur was faulty, etc.
I know from fast group rides on roller coaster terrain on windy days or in noisy traffic that I can't always hear the sound of cross-chaining, and have inadvertently shifted into the big/big combo when sprinting and closing gaps. So I always err on the side of caution with chains and leave them a link or two longer than some cyclists might. If I'm worried about chain slap damaging the chainstay I'll put on some frame protector tape.
Riding solo it would be unusual for me to shift into the big/big combo. I'm rarely in a big rush, and can hear the distinctive sound of cross chaining. But in a fast group ride and loud ambient noise, yeah, it can happen.
Even cyclists who claim they never use the big/big combo will suddenly claim "product defect!" when they accidentally shift into the big/big combo with a chain that's too short, and it rips off the rear derailleur, maybe damages the spokes and frame. Seen it a couple of times with cyclists who swore they didn't shift into the big/big combo, and claimed the derailleur was faulty, etc.
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09-11-21, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Branko D
I try not to, really, but sometimes it happens.
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09-11-21, 01:35 AM
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Never.
Nor do I use the small/small.
Nor do I use the small/small.
09-11-21, 04:06 AM
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I don't see any point with a double chainring. Once I'm on the 3rd largest rear gear I then drop to the small chainring if I want a lower gear.
