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Successful but perhaps pointless project
I recently replaced the drop bars on my winter bike with a set of VO Milan bars. I liked the upright posture and improved visibility, but thought they were a little narrow, and like most flat bars they offer relatively few hand positions.
To give my wrists a change of position, I would sometimes place my palm against the butt of the grip with my hands facing forward. It was promising, but awkward. I wondered what it would be like to have in improved version of that grip.
Okay, cutting to the chase, I made a prototype set of sphero-grips from a couple of 2 1/4" birch balls, some threaded rod and associated hardware, and a couple of neoprene expansion plugs from a set of bar-end plugs.
Standing over the frame, they feel good to my hands. Gripping the balls makes the bars a lot wider, and makes it possible to rotate your wrist in any direction. It's also very pleasant to wrap the thumb and forefinger around the very end of the bar, with the palm of the hand and the remaining fingers resting on the ball.
It also looks cool, like those ornamental (and protective-to-the-ox-driver) brass balls that oxen have on the tips of their horns.
What I don't know yet is how it feels on an actual ride, because it's been too icy to go out. My guess is that it will be a modest improvement over the original ball-less setup, but probably not quite good enough to justify the time and effort that went into it. That seems to be how I roll.
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at least they are not hanging from the seat
joking aside it is an interesting concept for added hand placement on the bars
joking aside it is an interesting concept for added hand placement on the bars
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I can see them being very comfortable. (Low hanging fruit here...or are they high hanging?)
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VO recently got in some "wood" MTB grips, if you want to match the balls.
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I feel like you should draw some smiley faces or some such on those wooden balls.
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I think it's brilliant! I might like to make a pair. Are wooden balls a commodity?
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They are used for doll heads, also there is a choice of pre-drilled ones...
Used them to make wooden gear knobs for old cars 😎
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https://www.rockler.com/hardwood-bal...YaAu21EALw_wcB
The ones I have were very well finished. All I did was go over them quickly with some fine sandpaper and rub in a little walnut oil.
Looking at the price list here, I'm puzzled as to why the 2 1/4" balls are $7.99, the 2 1/2" balls are $5.99, and the 2" balls are only $3.99. If I had been paying attention, I probably would have started with the 2" ones. But this is C&V, so carelessness with money is the order of the day.
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After your comment on oxen, I'm imagining them on Picasso's Bull's Head.
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I think we can all agree that it would be substantially improved by the addition of a pair of spheri-grips. Or whatever these things are called.
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jonwvara They need built-in LED lights to add to your visibility. However, I do realize, that enough time has already been put into your exceptional project.
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I think this C&V crowd is mostly about ‘whatever works to keep the bike comfortable’ is Good. That’s really what it is about for riders.
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artistic additions can be endless. 8 balls, Globe map, hypnotic swirl,
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I am going to ask for a wood-burning kit for Christmas.
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I'm thinking those would probably look pretty nice with cork grips too.
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Yes, here are the ones I used:
https://www.rockler.com/hardwood-bal...YaAu21EALw_wcB
The ones I have were very well finished. All I did was go over them quickly with some fine sandpaper and rub in a little walnut oil.
Looking at the price list here, I'm puzzled as to why the 2 1/4" balls are $7.99, the 2 1/2" balls are $5.99, and the 2" balls are only $3.99. If I had been paying attention, I probably would have started with the 2" ones. But this is C&V, so carelessness with money is the order of the day.
https://www.rockler.com/hardwood-bal...YaAu21EALw_wcB
The ones I have were very well finished. All I did was go over them quickly with some fine sandpaper and rub in a little walnut oil.
Looking at the price list here, I'm puzzled as to why the 2 1/4" balls are $7.99, the 2 1/2" balls are $5.99, and the 2" balls are only $3.99. If I had been paying attention, I probably would have started with the 2" ones. But this is C&V, so carelessness with money is the order of the day.
I do wonder how this will play out on a bumpy road. Does a ball provide enough grip in the case of a sudden jolt to the bars? That said, maybe a better equivalent when thinking about these is the grip on modern drop bar levers where you drape your hands over the knob of the hood.
Overall, this is a really cool project! Maybe a next evolution could be a shape that keeps the ergos but matches a little more aesthetically with the bar. That's a next level of difficulty though, I am sure.
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If you were a real sports fan you could have gone with whatever your sports icon throws!
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....and, finally, an appropriate place for shellac!
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...I do wonder how this will play out on a bumpy road. Does a ball provide enough grip in the case of a sudden jolt to the bars? That said, maybe a better equivalent when thinking about these is the grip on modern drop bar levers where you drape your hands over the knob of the hood...
It's supposed to be a little above freezing tomorrow, though raining. If it's not too bad, I hope I'll be able to ride at least a few miles and see how these things actually work.
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Today it was sunny and about 35 degrees, so despite a stiff west wind, I managed a road test of about 8 miles or so.
The grips felt quite good through heavy mittens. No issues with getting a solid grip with thumb and forefinger wrapped around the very ends of the bars and the palms/fingers on the balls. I enjoyed widening or narrowing the bars, depending on how I positioned my hands. A more or less "thumbless" grip, with the hands cupped around the balls, was less secure but still seemed fine on (relatively) smooth pavement. No issues reaching the brakes.
From similar quixotic projects past, I'm well aware that I have a tendency to prematurely declare that whatever I'm working on is a howling success. I'm not doing that this time. Even so, I'm encouraged. A longer ride without mittens will tell me more, but that will likely have to wait until April or so.
The grips felt quite good through heavy mittens. No issues with getting a solid grip with thumb and forefinger wrapped around the very ends of the bars and the palms/fingers on the balls. I enjoyed widening or narrowing the bars, depending on how I positioned my hands. A more or less "thumbless" grip, with the hands cupped around the balls, was less secure but still seemed fine on (relatively) smooth pavement. No issues reaching the brakes.
From similar quixotic projects past, I'm well aware that I have a tendency to prematurely declare that whatever I'm working on is a howling success. I'm not doing that this time. Even so, I'm encouraged. A longer ride without mittens will tell me more, but that will likely have to wait until April or so.
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Jon, in the spirit of human kindness, perhaps you can try these for a future mod: