Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Mountain Biking
Reload this Page >

Are you running different wheelsets for mountain and road?

Search
Notices
Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

Are you running different wheelsets for mountain and road?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-21-11, 08:41 PM
  #1  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Are you running different wheelsets for mountain and road?

Hi All
I've been running a mountain wheelset with Panaracers and a road wheelset with Tioga's, to spare my Panaracers from the ashphalt. Both have the same cassette so the swap is very quick.

What i've noticed is that over time is that if the wheelsets don't get close to the same amount of mileage (for example I use my mtb wheelset about 5 times for every 1 time I use the road wheelset), the shifting is completey off. The wheelset with less usage on the cassette needs to be re-indexed every time and there's no guarantee that I can get it to shift adaquately. I'm assuming the the chain and cassette wear down together.

Swapping the cassette every time is a real PIA. Does anyone have a simpler solution? Maybe i'm missing something obvious here?

Thanks
Mike
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-21-11, 11:40 PM
  #2  
TacomaSailor
Senior Member
 
TacomaSailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
Posts: 270

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix road bike, Stumpjumper Comp hardtail, Trance X2 FS mountainbike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ride an old hardtail 2001 Stumpjumper Comp with two different wheel sets. I haven't had a car for the last six weeks so the bike gets a lot of usage. I have a very old set of wheels for my road tires with a Shimano 7 speed cassette. My dirt wheels have a Shimano 8 speed cassette.

The XTR thumb shifter/XTR derailleur works perfectly on both wheel sets with no adjustments as I switch wheel sets several times a week.

The initial fine tuning was a little fiddly but things work fine now.
TacomaSailor is offline  
Old 11-21-11, 11:43 PM
  #3  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,681 Times in 4,077 Posts
Are you measuring your chain often and replacing as needed?
LesterOfPuppets is online now  
Old 11-21-11, 11:53 PM
  #4  
AsanaCycles
Bicycle Lifestyle
 
AsanaCycles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pacific Grove, Ca
Posts: 1,737

Bikes: Neil Pryde Diablo, VeloVie Vitesse400, Hunter29er, Surly Big Dummy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I use the same wheelset and often times the same tires.

29x2.1 Vulpines or Nanos on Crossmax
AsanaCycles is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 07:57 AM
  #5  
junkyard
Fourth Degree Legend
 
junkyard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: American Gardens Building
Posts: 3,826

Bikes: 2005 Kona Cinder Cone & 2010 Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I run different wheelsets. However, I also run different framesets. My suggestion: get another bike.
junkyard is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 09:58 AM
  #6  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Are you measuring your chain often and replacing as needed?
Yes, I replace the chain every summer, so it gets about 5 months of usage, which is anywhere between 900-1100 miles.
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 09:58 AM
  #7  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by junkyard
I run different wheelsets. However, I also run different framesets. My suggestion: get another bike.
I would agree except that there are financial constraints.
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 01:37 PM
  #8  
choclabman
Senior Member
 
choclabman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 126

Bikes: 2011 Trek 8.4 DS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I also have different wheelsets for my bike. The only thing I have to do is center the rotor between the hydraulic disc brakes every time I change the wheels.
choclabman is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 10:13 PM
  #9  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by choclabman
I also have different wheelsets for my bike. The only thing I have to do is center the rotor between the hydraulic disc brakes every time I change the wheels.
It used to be like that when the chain and cassette were new.
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-22-11, 11:53 PM
  #10  
electrik
Single-serving poster
 
electrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,098
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
A second chain for each wheelset. Make sure the if you're using a cup and cone hub that the cone on the drive side is in the exact same position on both axles.
electrik is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 03:43 AM
  #11  
ShimmerFade
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why not just swap out the tires real quick if it is only every 6th time you ride the bike?
ShimmerFade is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 07:34 AM
  #12  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by ShimmerFade
Why not just swap out the tires real quick if it is only every 6th time you ride the bike?
That would be a solution, thanks.

Thanks for all your feedback folks. I think the simplest solution is to get another bike. My sister has my old hardtail and it's collecting dust in her garage so I'm going to give it new life and that will be the solution.

Last edited by xfimpg; 11-23-11 at 07:35 AM. Reason: Just got up = grammar mistakes!
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 10:01 AM
  #13  
ShimmerFade
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nice, new bikes are always fun !
ShimmerFade is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 10:05 AM
  #14  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by ShimmerFade
Nice, new bikes are always fun !
lol yes they are! This one is a 2004 Trek 4300 hardtail that I used to ride, so spending the winter tuning it up will be fun!
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 10:14 AM
  #15  
3speed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 3,473
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 363 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 22 Posts
I got two wheel-sets for my bike with the hope of swapping them depending on what kind of riding I planned to do. I never could get the shifting to work out without slight adjustment when I swapped wheels. I ended up just using a mid-90s MTB as a separate commuter. Looks like your situation worked out kind of the same. As you said, it'll be fun tuning it up and it'll be easier in the long run than swapping wheels.
3speed is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 10:29 AM
  #16  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by 3speed
I got two wheel-sets for my bike with the hope of swapping them depending on what kind of riding I planned to do. I never could get the shifting to work out without slight adjustment when I swapped wheels. I ended up just using a mid-90s MTB as a separate commuter. Looks like your situation worked out kind of the same. As you said, it'll be fun tuning it up and it'll be easier in the long run than swapping wheels.
Yup!

And adjusting the rotors almost every time is a pia too.
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 03:01 PM
  #17  
ShimmerFade
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't understand why you all are switching wheels sets out when you have to do so much other work. Is it to use a specific wheel? I mean I can have both MTB tires swapped out for big apples in about 10-15 mins..which seems like less time than it would take to do all the adjustments you all are talking about.
ShimmerFade is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 09:07 PM
  #18  
3speed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 3,473
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 363 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 22 Posts
^ That's why I ended up Not swapping out wheelsets and just getting another quality, but older and therefore cheap MTB to use as a bad weather road warrior. It works well too because then in the winter when I'm not using the real MTB it just hangs downstairs on the wall hanger I have in the spare room and I keep the road warrior in the car port in front of my car and since it's an older beater bike, I don't worry too much about it being exposed to weather in the winter.
3speed is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 09:27 PM
  #19  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by ShimmerFade
I don't understand why you all are switching wheels sets out when you have to do so much other work. Is it to use a specific wheel? I mean I can have both MTB tires swapped out for big apples in about 10-15 mins..which seems like less time than it would take to do all the adjustments you all are talking about.
That's why I'm asking the question; 2 minutes max is my goal = get a second bike, a beater like 3speed said.
xfimpg is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 09:29 PM
  #20  
AsanaCycles
Bicycle Lifestyle
 
AsanaCycles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pacific Grove, Ca
Posts: 1,737

Bikes: Neil Pryde Diablo, VeloVie Vitesse400, Hunter29er, Surly Big Dummy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'm on a set of Crossmax 29er with Nano's that I've been using off and on for the last 2 years, so I decided I needed to wear them out before they get too old, and just start cracking.

otherwise, I'm typically on a set of Vulpines, which last about 5,000 miles per set, so I go thru at least 2 sets a year. I simply adapt while I'm riding.
AsanaCycles is offline  
Old 11-23-11, 09:53 PM
  #21  
LesterOfPuppets
cowboy, steel horse, etc
 
LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836

Bikes: everywhere

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,681 Times in 4,077 Posts
Back when I only had one bike wheelswapping worked fine for me. I had rim brakes, rims were the same width. 8-speed Shimano cassettes. Both wheelsets with LX hubs. I'd never do the tire swapping thing. I find removing and remounting tires highly unpleasant.

I still swap wheels on my road bike. Daily driver clinchers to sunny day sewups. Friction shift on that rig, though so not much can go wrong.
LesterOfPuppets is online now  
Old 11-23-11, 11:18 PM
  #22  
dsprehe89
Senior Member
 
dsprehe89's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MidWest USA
Posts: 451

Bikes: 2013 Stumpjumper HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have 4 bikes. One is a hybrid that I got for free from a friend and I plan on using it as my commuter next spring. Another is my MTB that I built up this last summer, the third is my BMXer that I've had since I was like 10 and just doesn't have brakes and needs new tires (plan on doing over the next year or 2), and the forth is a roadie that I got off craigslist for $30 and have been working on converting to a SS/FG. I use the roadie just for enjoyable long road rides and faster rides, the MTB for well.......MTBing , and I use the hybrid for commutting . Also, I've always wanted to use these icons so thanks
dsprehe89 is offline  
Old 11-24-11, 03:20 AM
  #23  
ShimmerFade
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 269
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ah ok. Guess I don't mind changing out the tires too much. I also have a city/touring bike that I use for everyday use and touring with only panniers, but I feel it is not quite up to snuff for really heavy loads (gearing doesn't go nearly as low as my MTB, and the brakes aren't as strong). I put the Big Apples on my MTB when I am going to be hauling the 15kg dog trailer with 30kg dog + other stuff inside.
ShimmerFade is offline  
Old 11-24-11, 07:22 AM
  #24  
xfimpg
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
xfimpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,137

Bikes: RichardZEP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by dsprehe89
I have 4 bikes. One is a hybrid that I got for free from a friend and I plan on using it as my commuter next spring. Another is my MTB that I built up this last summer, the third is my BMXer that I've had since I was like 10 and just doesn't have brakes and needs new tires (plan on doing over the next year or 2), and the forth is a roadie that I got off craigslist for $30 and have been working on converting to a SS/FG. I use the roadie just for enjoyable long road rides and faster rides, the MTB for well.......MTBing , and I use the hybrid for commutting . Also, I've always wanted to use these icons so thanks
You have excellent taste in icons.
xfimpg is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
loubikes
Bicycle Mechanics
10
02-23-19 11:21 AM
michaelm101
Fifty Plus (50+)
6
12-19-18 11:57 AM
North Coast Joe
Bicycle Mechanics
9
03-12-18 10:17 PM
bbbean
Mountain Biking
3
10-15-13 06:49 PM
tkehler
Road Cycling
5
04-20-10 03:48 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.