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Old 11-24-21, 03:18 AM
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Florida Man Questions Grail Bikes

The Psychic Derailleur is interesting and fun; this is just this week's micro dose.

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Old 11-24-21, 09:06 AM
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TL; DW

I gave up before he got to the point!

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Old 11-24-21, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry2
TL; DW

I gave up before he got to the point!

Barry
Same here.
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Old 11-24-21, 09:23 AM
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Someone should write this vlogger and ask him to contribute to this thread.
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Old 11-24-21, 09:32 AM
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I think if I'd been at YouTube for 3 years with almost 180 videos and only had 957 subscribers...I'd find another hobby. I admire his sticktoitiveness.
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Old 11-24-21, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sarhog
Same here.
+2.

Anyone care to provide an executive summary?
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Old 11-24-21, 09:44 AM
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Minute and a half in and he hast said anything about bikes.

Based on the OP, I'm guessing this guy talks about simplicity, longevity, etc.
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Old 11-24-21, 10:14 AM
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Florida Man after all.
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I watched 4 minutes- 1/2 of the video, and did not identify any point that he was trying to make.

Good before-bed watching, maybe...
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat
I think if I'd been at YouTube for 3 years with almost 180 videos and only had 957 subscribers...I'd find another hobby. I admire his sticktoitiveness.
It's just a video diary he's made public.
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Old 11-24-21, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry2
TL; DW

I gave up before he got to the point!

Barry
And you felt the need to share your disinterest with the universe because...?
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Old 11-24-21, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
+2.

Anyone care to provide an executive summary?
Watched most of it, at 1.75 speed (you can click on the toothed gear symbol at the bottom of a video and then select a speed setting).

His point: he says that many people he knows lusted after specific grail bikes for their looks and gave no or little thought to how they would ride and then found themselves disappointed with the reality that the bikes didn't ride differently from what they already have, or not differently enough, and so sold the bikes on.

As usual with such idiosyncratic sweeping statements, his "many people" probably represents two people, if that many. Or maybe he just came up with his own conjecture concerning why someone he once saw riding an older high-end bike is now riding a newer bike.

If that video is representative of the depth of his thinking, I'll save myself the trouble of looking at other videos from him.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Watched most of it, at 1.75 speed (you can click on the toothed gear symbol at the bottom of a video and then select a speed setting).

His point: he says that many people he knows lusted after specific grail bikes for their looks and gave no or little thought to how they would ride and then found themselves disappointed with the reality that the bikes didn't ride differently from what they already have, or not differently enough, and so sold the bikes on.

As usual with such idiosyncratic sweeping statements, his "many people" probably represents two people, if that many. Or maybe he just came up with his own conjecture concerning why someone he once saw riding an older high-end bike is now riding a newer bike.

If that video is representative of the depth of his thinking, I'll save myself the trouble of looking at other videos from him.
Based on his request for likes and comments, I think he’s trying to monetize his channel.

Pro tip: Get to the point already.
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Originally Posted by Korina
And you felt the need to share your disinterest with the universe because...?
Because this is a message board where topics are discussed and opinions are shared.
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Originally Posted by Korina
And you felt the need to share your disinterest with the universe because...?
To save other people the time of watching it?
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Old 11-25-21, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Based on his request for likes and comments, I think he’s trying to monetize his channel.

Pro tip: Get to the point already.
If the point is banal, he’s still not gonna make any money.
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Originally Posted by Korina
And you felt the need to share your disinterest with the universe because...?
Yes, that’s what you just did.
Felt good didn’t it.

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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Because this is a message board where topics are discussed and opinions are shared.
Okay. I'm weird then; when I dislike something I just keep on walking.
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Originally Posted by Korina
Okay. I'm weird then; when I dislike something I just keep on walking.
Dude are you seriously criticizing someone for saying he didn't like a video? How is his saying he didn't like a video worse than your saying you don't like his post?

Oh, and why don't you go back and call out the rest of the posters who .... also said they didn't like the video?

I know if is getting cold out, but please .... bundle up and go for a ride.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Dude are you seriously criticizing someone for saying he didn't like a video? How is his saying he didn't like a video worse than your saying you don't like his post?

Oh, and why don't you go back and call out the rest of the posters who .... also said they didn't like the video?

I know if is getting cold out, but please .... bundle up and go for a ride.
Yeah, sorry. I don't write snark, and this is why.
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Originally Posted by Korina
Yeah, sorry. I don't write snark, and this is why.
let me apologize as well, then .... I had to work unreasonable amounts over the weekend and early this week and haven't gotten out on my bike in far too long.

It doesn't take a lot of miles to clear out the crap .... and it doesn't take too many days of not riding for the crap to collect.

I desperately need to take my own advice and go ride.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
let me apologize as well, then .... I had to work unreasonable amounts over the weekend and early this week and haven't gotten out on my bike in far too long.

It doesn't take a lot of miles to clear out the crap .... and it doesn't take too many days of not riding for the crap to collect.

I desperately need to take my own advice and go ride.
Ditto. Except it's near sunset, and it's too cold. Probably tomorrow at the Volunteer Trail Stewards workday; last time I did over 12 miles just riding back and forth carrying things and messages.
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I think if you ever get to the point where your dream bike disappoints, then it's probably time to look for a new hobby. Or at least re-define what your dream bike actually is.
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Funny ... my bikes are all better than me already. I don't have a "grail bike." What I seek are better rides .... and that is all about the state of mind and body of the rider.
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Funny ... my bikes are all better than me already. I don't have a "grail bike." What I seek are better rides .... and that is all about the state of mind and body of the rider.
Beat me to it.

I'm a cyclist, not a fetishist.
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