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Have a Focus Culebro (Alu/Sram) for over 10 years. Very light and rigid and survived a major "off", which destroyed the wheels and handlebars, but the frame was very robust. Still my "summer" bike. Here is a good resource to find a decent bike https://nicelocal.co.uk/london/shops/type/bicycles/
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According to wiki, Enik stopped making own frames in the early 199ies. As long as they did make their own frames, supposedly each frame had the mark of the individual craftsman punced in (dont know where), maybe a way to tell made in germany Eniks apart from the others. Large company, huge output of all kinds of bikes, not exactly a boutique marque.
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Did Belgium have any large scale production facilities for lower mid frames?
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As it was apparently all a bit hush hush, it is hard to find real evidence, but Martens alone- who supplied mostly high end frames AFIK, says to have built 25,000 frames for others. Vaneenooghe built mid to high level blank frames in what I suspect may be even larger quantities. And then there were DIJA, Flandria, Kessels and a whole lot of smaller builders.
Many stayed in Belgium and ended up with Belgian brand decals, and substantial quantities also went to Dutch shops, to be branded as a Snel, Vittorio, De Reus or Jan Janssen, just to name a few of the more familiar brands.
I know next to nothing about the German market, but from what I've seen I get the impression that shops tended to look mostly towards Italy as a source for frames (I know BMZ built frames for the German market), but it wouldn't surprise me to find Belgian frames there as well.
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Not that I know of but I know next to nothing about Enik apart from the pun fährst du Enik wirst du eh nix. OEM frames in Germany came from all over the place, the Bügelmann Barillias came from Italy, later from somewhere behind the iron curtain. No idea what Enik did. Local bike shops with their own brands like Strobl bought from wherever, those in the south from Italy, those in the north west may well have gone to Belgium.
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Not that I know of but I know next to nothing about Enik apart from the pun fährst du Enik wirst du eh nix. OEM frames in Germany came from all over the place, the Bügelmann Barillias came from Italy, later from somewhere behind the iron curtain. No idea what Enik did. Local bike shops with their own brands like Strobl bought from wherever, those in the south from Italy, those in the north west may well have gone to Belgium.
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1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super