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Old 10-24-21, 01:25 AM
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Is my Raleigh frame titanium?

My uncle gave me a raleigh frame and he said that it is titanium, how to tell if it’s really ti?
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Old 10-24-21, 02:14 AM
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You don't know what titanium looks like? If it's ti it's probably not completely painted. You should be able to see the bare metal.
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Technium is not titanium. AFAIK the good ones were made from what later became known as the 7000 series aluminum we all know & love.

The Tri‐Lite Techniums were good frames & are still well regarded.

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To my knowledge Raleigh never produced a titanium bicycle.
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Please don't do any of this.

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Do NOT put a magnet anywhere near a Ti bike. The resulting electro-chemical interactions will destroy the bike, the magnet, and anyone nearby.

To see if it is actually Aluminum, or an aluminum alloy, do a "file test." (Hack saws also work---or even an old steel knife.) Scrape off a good handful of dust or shavings from the top tube, and see if they burn. Better hope the frame is not magnesium.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Do NOT put a magnet anywhere near a Ti bike. The resulting electro-chemical interactions will destroy the bike, the magnet, and anyone nearby.

To see if it is actually Aluminum, or an aluminum alloy, do a "file test." (Hack saws also work---or even an old steel knife.) Scrape off a good handful of dust or shavings from the top tube, and see if they burn. Better hope the frame is not magnesium.

https://www.roadbikereview.com/threa...d-cost.245097/
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Please don't do any of this.
Not a fan of Darwin, eh??

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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Not a fan of Darwin, eh??

Not a fan of trolling new forum members.
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I gave the guy a link to info about his bike ..... no one else bothered to actually help the guy .... but I get an infraction?
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You did? I went and scraped a good amount of titanium off of my Moots with my steel knife like you said (BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU - with all your years here) and now there's damage to the frame. It can't be fixed.. I'd have to send it back to Colorado to have the top tube replaced. But getting an infraction for that is more upsetting to you than having me damaging a bike that cost me thousands.
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Originally Posted by base2
Technium is not titanium. AFAIK the good ones were made from what later became known as the 7000 series aluminum we all know & love.

The Tri‐Lite Techniums were good frames & are still well regarded.
This is likely the source of confusion. Check the frame and see if has the word "Technium" on it anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
You did?
I most certainly did. Review the "offensive" post. It contains the link "https://www.roadbikereview.com/threads/raleigh-technium-identification-and-cost.245097/" which is a discussion of various Raleigh Technium frames. No big deal .... either way .... but yeah. I did.
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I went and scraped a good amount of titanium off of my Moots with my steel knife like you said (BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU - with all your years here) and now there's damage to the frame. It can't be fixed.. I'd have to send it back to Colorado to have the top tube replaced. But getting an infraction for that is more upsetting to you than having me damaging a bike that cost me thousands.
The first line of the post was "Don't get a magnet near a titanium bike---it will explode."

If you believe someone who tells you that .... goods luck to you.

Anyway .... Maybe I have a higher regard for the intellect of our posters than you.

Whatever. Send me your Moots .... I can fix it cheap. It will be almost as good as new. But don't get it near any magnets.
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Raleigh only made a couple of ti frames, there was one that was a periwinkle blue that I wanted but couldn't afford. The ti frame will have very small welds, like you would find on a steel bike but won't be magnetic. Start with a magnet on the top tube, sticks its obviously steel. Look for scratches, ti has a distinctive gray color to it, if any scratches have a shiny look or it seems like a bright metal then its aluminum.
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Old 10-25-21, 04:45 PM
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Aluminum melts at 660° C, Titanium at 1660° C.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
You did? I went and scraped a good amount of titanium off of my Moots with my steel knife like you said (BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU - with all your years here) and now there's damage to the frame. It can't be fixed.. I'd have to send it back to Colorado to have the top tube replaced. But getting an infraction for that is more upsetting to you than having me damaging a bike that cost me thousands.
No dog in this fight, but there are countless incorrect claims and advice given each day on this forum. Whats the difference this time?
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Old 10-26-21, 01:32 AM
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I keep telling myself to stop replying to threads started by someone making their first post because 95% of the time you never hear from them again, not even a thanks. Someday I'll learn.

Ought to make a rule that if a newbie with zero posts starts a thread asking a question and they never come back the thread gets deleted so nobody else will waste their time replying. Or make it like it is with pictures. Can't start a thread until you have X number of posts.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I most certainly did. Review the "offensive" post. It contains the link "https://www.roadbikereview.com/threads/raleigh-technium-identification-and-cost.245097/" which is a discussion of various Raleigh Technium frames. No big deal .... either way .... but yeah. I did. The first line of the post was "Don't get a magnet near a titanium bike---it will explode."

If you believe someone who tells you that .... goods luck to you.

Anyway .... Maybe I have a higher regard for the intellect of our posters than you.

Whatever. Send me your Moots .... I can fix it cheap. It will be almost as good as new. But don't get it near any magnets.
To justify dispensing stupid device to a new member under the guise of 'humor' doesn't make you funny, or interesting. Your link provided the information the OP needed, I assume. To embellish your post with ridiculous claims and advice just makes you seem, well... stupid.
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It's possible to mistakenly give advice or even repeat something one thinks is true, but turns out to be incorrect. However, when the advice is purposely misleading, the perpetrator should be banned, IMO.
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Originally Posted by 2old
It's possible to mistakenly give advice or even repeat something one thinks is true, but turns out to be incorrect. However, when the advice is purposely misleading, the perpetrator should be banned, IMO.
Ooh, interesting. Care to weigh in, Maelochs ?
We can go full Judge Wackner in here and just bypass the established order.
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If there was only a way for you to somehow capture an image of the bike and then project it to us so that we could see it. Oh well, maybe in the future.
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Originally Posted by 2old
It's possible to mistakenly give advice or even repeat something one thinks is true, but turns out to be incorrect. However, when the advice is purposely misleading, the perpetrator should be banned, IMO.
Except when the advice is filled with hyperbole and telegraphed with an opening exaggeration, in which case, it should be simply smiled at. You guys are way too uptight. How low an opinion do you hold of folks who come to this discussion board seeking information?
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This thread is hilarious!
Can someone enlighten me, would a typical hacksaw even put scratches on titanium? (yeah, I realize it'd damage aluminum)
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