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Old 11-02-20, 11:40 PM
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A lot of that going around lately. Ice that knee!
the ice helped.

it’s still swollen, but doesn’t hurt as much.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
seedsbelize2 was it you who said hanging from a bar can help one's back? If so, how long? Is ten seconds long enough?
It was me, 10 seconds or whatever you can tolerate. I also said you can't wait until you hurt your back to start doing it, it'll be too painful.

For me it has straightened my hunched cyclist's posture a bit, and has also allowed the discs in my to decompress while I hang. Sometimes my back pops slightly. Shoulders feel great. All the benefits you get from those Teeter machines that turn you upside down, I think you you can also get from hanging. Plus strengthening of tendons and muscles in the shoulders, back, and surprisingly, the abs. I'm actually developing an ever so slight six pack from doing this, and definitely standing up much straighter.

I do 20 seconds, up to a minute, whatever is tolerable to my hands. I used to let my feet lightly touch the floor (I use a doorway pull up bar) but now I as I have gained strength, I now bend my knees and hold them in front of me for a few seconds, and keep them off the ground completely while I'm hanging. It takes a few weeks or months to build up strength, don't rush it.
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Pretty sure you can get the same spine benefit with back extension stretches, e.g., the upward dog in yoga. I these in rehab after a crippling lumbar disc herniation and still do when things don’t feel right down there.

Some degree of linear disc “distraction” is possible in the cervical spine and cervical traction is often helpful for disc-related symptoms, but lumbar traction has not shown reliable benefits.

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I used to do an hour a day of yoga, and it did my back no favors. I think it's best not to stretch the back too much, for me it caused a lot of dislocation and misalignment, which is exactly what I don't want. I do planks these days instead of stretches, per this study:

https://spinehealth.org/breaking-dow...wn-your-spine/
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Irrelevant to my activity. I was "helping" my dad erect a fence. He didn't really know what he was doing, and I certainly didn't know what we were doing. We also lacked proper supplies. Sad.
I guess you can say "erect",too.
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Nightmare last night, and 43*. I hope the former is not a portent of anything, and the combination absolutely means fake miles.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
It was me, 10 seconds or whatever you can tolerate. I also said you can't wait until you hurt your back to start doing it, it'll be too painful.
No problem with the "back injury," if that's what it is, it's way down at my hip area. I'm not used to doing that so not a lot of strength to hang.
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I have found that once I get comfortable hanging, I start to loosen up, and even the lowest parts of the back can decompress. I have a "trick" sacral region on one side, that has two possible positions it can settle into. 1.) compressed, and 2.) decompressed. #2 feels much better, but when I lift something heavy the back often settles into #1 , and will take days or weeks to return to normal without the hanging by the arms stuff.

As always YMMV, just sharing what works for me.
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On my way to work, I drove by the polling location for my district at a few minutes after 7AM (polls open at 7) and saw a LONG LINE!

I was surprised as I would have expected most of my neighbors to have voted by mail (which everyone in my family did). Apparently not.
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Originally Posted by datlas
On my way to work, I drove by the polling location for my district at a few minutes after 7AM (polls open at 7) and saw a LONG LINE!

I was surprised as I would have expected most of my neighbors to have voted by mail (which everyone in my family did). Apparently not.
I was slightly surprised by this as well. Drove by my polling place at 6:15, intending to vote before work, and there was a line at least 25 people deep. I shall try again this afternoon. I knew I should have voted early .
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Ah, the existential dread of Election Day, 2020 Edition. If I could **** off on a 200k, I surely would.
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I told her what I use but I'm a sweathog. Just looking for a jersey to go with the other layers. Since she stays on dirt her speeds aren't real high.

This one?https://www.farfetch.com/shopping/wo...ear%3A%3AWomen
No, that's the rain jacket. This is the Core Winter Jacket - https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/shop/w...uct/WWC01XXHVP
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Nightmare last night, and 43*. I hope the former is not a portent of anything, and the combination absolutely means fake miles.

what kind of nightmare?
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Originally Posted by Jadesfire
I was slightly surprised by this as well. Drove by my polling place at 6:15, intending to vote before work, and there was a line at least 25 people deep. I shall try again this afternoon. I knew I should have voted early .

Interesting, I rode by two different polling locations this morning and both were dead. I plan on heading soon, hope that’s still the case. I meant to vote early as well, but kept forgetting.
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Originally Posted by datlas
On my way to work, I drove by the polling location for my district at a few minutes after 7AM (polls open at 7) and saw a LONG LINE!

I was surprised as I would have expected most of my neighbors to have voted by mail (which everyone in my family did). Apparently not.
Maybe I should have waited until Election Day.

Wife had a 10 minute wait this morning. I was at the early voting location for an hour and a half last week
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
I have found that once I get comfortable hanging, I start to loosen up, and even the lowest parts of the back can decompress. I have a "trick" sacral region on one side, that has two possible positions it can settle into. 1.) compressed, and 2.) decompressed. #2 feels much better, but when I lift something heavy the back often settles into #1 , and will take days or weeks to return to normal without the hanging by the arms stuff.

As always YMMV, just sharing what works for me.
Yeah, it's got to stretch the muscles. My wife had chronic back problems for a few years and we built a rig to hang her by her ankles on a ramp at progressive angles. It was relaxing, for sure, if you could tolerate the venous engorgement in the head.
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Yeah, it's got to stretch the muscles. My wife had chronic back problems for a few years and we built a rig to hang her by her ankles on a ramp at progressive angles. It was relaxing, for sure, if you could tolerate the venous engorgement in the head.
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Originally Posted by Jadesfire
I was slightly surprised by this as well. Drove by my polling place at 6:15, intending to vote before work, and there was a line at least 25 people deep. I shall try again this afternoon. I knew I should have voted early .
25 people in line? That's not bad.
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seedsbelize2 was it you who said hanging from a bar can help one's back? If so, how long? Is ten seconds long enough?
Wasn't me
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I am never in a Joe Walsh mood..
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Originally Posted by datlas
On my way to work, I drove by the polling location for my district at a few minutes after 7AM (polls open at 7) and saw a LONG LINE!

I was surprised as I would have expected most of my neighbors to have voted by mail (which everyone in my family did). Apparently not.
Texas early voting has surpassed 2016 total. Anyone who claims to know what that means is lying.
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