Originally Posted by wolfchild

The study which you speak of was done on doctors and nurses, not a very healthy job to begin with....High stress, erratic sleep schedule. lack of sleep, poor diet, lack of exercise are all factors that can contribute to heart disease or diabetes., Has the study investigated their overall lifestyle ?. Did they drink a lot of alcohol, did they smoke, did they exercise, how was their overall diet like ?. What other foods did they eat that might of contributed to their heart disease or diabetes ?..I highly doubt it was eggs alone, but unfortunately eggs have became a scapegoat in this particular study. Science has been flip / flopping on egg consumption for a long time. Me personally I eat whatever makes me feel good, I've been eating 5 - 6 whole eggs daily for breakfast for the past 30 years. and will continue to do so regardless of what any study has to say.

Originally Posted by 79pmooney

My former GP had me read the Omega Diet when I first started seeing him. The book that started the Omega 3 awareness. It talks of the vegetable oils. Very roughly, there are the oils of the common grains that are Omega 6 sources and oils from the dark green veggies and some others like flax seed. And olive oil which has neither but is in many other ways, simply excellent. That author postulated that the optimum blend of human health was 6 parts Omega 6 to one part of Omega 3.

The 6:1 ratio makes it sound like getting enough Omega 3 is a breeze. It isn't. Agriculture has effectively tailored our food to be entirely Omega 6. Putting cows, goats and pigs out to pasture in fields and woods with a lot of the dark stuff isn't efficient. They fatten up far faster eating pure grain. And over-eaten fields have don't have much in the way of dark greens. Things have gotten better. Here in Portland, the stores offer what I call "goat food". Kale, chard, spinach greens, mustard greens ... The veggies that used to be just weeds.

I take a fish oil capsule every night for its 1000mg of Omega 3. Or, it that isn't to be had, flax oil capsules. Use peanut oil only when I need an oil that can handle the hot wok. For everything else, I use olive oil. I do love and consume peanut butter. I have access to freshly made, 100% peanut every Saturday at the farmer's market. A farmer's grand mother makes it. So thick it doesn't spread until it's warm. (Kept refrigerated.) I do a small jar a week.

The pursuit of the Omega 3s seems to work for me. The pasty 20 years I have felt much better than I did the 15 years prior. I've never matched the feeling of my 20s when I was a bike racer, totally in form and ate well, no meat, milk and little white powders. (Salt - very low, sucrose - next to none, little white flour, none bleached ...) Now I have to live with the crash damage I compiled then and later. Blah, blah blah. Aging sucks. But my gut works very well. I feel fully alive and I am interested in nutritious food 'cause it's an interesting topic and I use a lot of online sources to get updated. On eof them is https://ca.papersowl.com/write-my-research-paper because I develop a research paper and need expert opinion to finish my academic study. Life is good.

Originally Posted by MoAlpha

Me too. Peter Attia, who has surveyed the longevity literature as well as anyone, says he doesn't want to hear about diet from anyone who can't dead-lift their own weight. First things first.

Originally Posted by Steamer

Here is a good deep dive on protein. https://youtu.be/BqmG2y4IeY8

Lessons learned, among others:

No less than 30 grams of complete protein is needed in one sitting to stimulate tissue growth. Spreading it out doesn't have the same effect.
First meal of the day is the most important for getting your protein. Last meal is 2nd most important.
Be conscious of how complete your protein is. (peanuts are low in methionine and lysine, for example)
Don't think of protein in terms of percentage of calories. Think of it in terms of being a daily prescription of grams of protein / kg of body weight.

Originally Posted by PeteHski

I haven’t read your link, but other highly reputable sources I have read don’t support the above claims at all. Especially when it comes to specific timing of protein intake.

Originally Posted by Steamer

Maybe you should.

Originally Posted by OBoile

Yep. A relatively young science that is notoriously difficult to study and experiment on. The people who are genuinely trying to advance the field, and not just grift off of people looking for a miracle cure, are the first to caution others that we don't really know very much.

Originally Posted by mramra

I think I disagree that the optimal Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio is 6:1. While this ratio may have been appropriate for our ancestors who consumed a diet rich in wild plants and game meat, it's not necessarily suitable for us, modern humans whose diets are heavily skewed toward processed foods and omega-6-rich vegetable oils.

As far as I know, a more balanced ratio of around 2:1 or even 1:1 is closer to ideal for promoting optimal health. This is because omega-6 and omega-3 fatty acids play opposing roles in the body's inflammatory response. Omega-6 fatty acids are generally pro-inflammatory, while omega-3 fatty acids are anti-inflammatory. When the balance is tipped too far in favor of omega-6, chronic inflammation can develop, increasing the risk of various chronic diseases, including heart disease, cancer, and autoimmune disorders.

(Yeah, I have some medicine knowledge)

I agree that consuming plenty of dark green leafy vegetables is an excellent way to boost omega-3 intake. However, I would caution against relying solely on plant-based sources of omega-3s, as the conversion of ALA to EPA and DHA is relatively inefficient.
For this reason, I also recommend incorporating fatty fish into your diet. Fatty fish, such as salmon, mackerel, sardines, herring,... are excellent sources of EPA and DHA. Aim to consume at least two servings of fatty fish per week.

In addition to dietary changes, I really recommend lifestyle factors that will improve your omega-6 to omega-3 ratio: limiting your intake of processed foods, reducing your consumption of omega-6-rich vegetable oils, and increasing your intake of omega-3-rich supplements, such as fish oil or algae oil

By following my recommendations, you can help optimize your omega-6 to omega-3 ratio and potentially reduce your risk of chronic diseases.

Originally Posted by SpedFast

I like peanut butter.

Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy

One of the things I consider in thinking about diet is our evolution. We know that **** sapiens has thrived on many different diets, depending on what's available. One of the things that's available in most places at least at some time during the year is eggs. And we started out as small critters who ate a lot of dinosaur eggs, and kept at it for maybe 150 million years. So I figure eggs are good, just not too many. One of the necessary nutrients in eggs is choline. We supposedly would do best on about 550mg of choline per day:
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Choline-Consumer/

One large egg has about 147mg, so 2 eggs/day gets you about half your requirement. There are other dietary choline sources and we do make some choline in our bodies, don't know how much though. My wife and I only go through about a dozed eggs/week and eat no dinosaurs (just their eggs) or mammals. Looking at that, I started supplementing with sunflower lecithin. It does seem like that addition helped me heal faster. Anyway, no harm in it that I know of - no cholesterol in lecithin.

To the OP, I had borderline cholesterol levels at your age and now had 3 stents and one minor heart attack, in spite of having been an ovo-lacto-pisco "vegetarian" for 50-some years. It is said that cardiologists lose their license if they don't prescribe a statin for folks your age. Seriously, consider taking a statin. About 80% of people can take one with zero side effects.

Originally Posted by RH Clark

More recent research has shown statins do not significantly increase lifespan and can have detrimental side effects. Please do your homework before going on statins.

Originally Posted by RH Clark

More recent research has shown statins do not significantly increase lifespan and can have detrimental side effects. Please do your homework before going on statins.

Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy

I've been on a low cholesterol plant-based diet for over 50 years, have always been active, and thought I didn't have anything to worry about. I was wrong.

Originally Posted by wolfchild

60 - 70 years ago some doctors started to believe that dietary cholesterol was responsible for an increase in heart attacks. They were wrong, just look where it got us.... Today after a lot of research and studies it's been proven that dietary cholesterol has almost no effect on blood cholesterol and no effect on the ratio between LDL and HDL. Human liver makes all the cholesterol even if people avoid eating it and who follow low fat diets. Even anorexics who starve themselves and people on low calorie diets can have high cholesterol....It's been known for some time that humans are flawed right from birth. Babies and little children already have arteriosclerosis in them before they even reach old age. It's just a matter of time, some people get heart attack sooner and some get it later but majority of deaths are still from heart disease. I'll just stick with my animal based diet.

Originally Posted by late

If you are doing a lot of resistance exercise, trying to build muscle, you need extra protein. By itself, cycling doesn't increase the need for protein by much.

Originally Posted by terrymorse

That depends on your definition of "much".

Endurance exercise requires more protein intake, that's for sure:

"According to sports nutrition consensus statements mainly based data from NBAL studies, protein recommendations for endurance athletes have been suggested to be 1.2–1.4 g protein/kg/d; these recommendations are 50–75% greater than the current RDA of 0.8 g/kg/d."

-- Kato et al, Protein Requirements Are Elevated in Endurance Athletes after Exercise as Determined by the Indicator Amino Acid Oxidation Method, PLOS One 2016

50-75% more protein seems to be in the "much" category, no?

Originally Posted by late

Most cyclists aren't endurance athletes, you're in a minority.

Originally Posted by Iride01

1.4 grams/kg comes to about 111 grams of protein for a 175 pound person. That's only 4 ounces of protein. Still well below what most probably eat daily. So I don't understand why you are saying we need more, but give information that suggests we get more than enough. Or do you believe we all eat diets deficient in protein?