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Old 11-15-20, 04:38 PM
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Shifter compatibility

I am upgrading a 80's seven speed road bike to a nine speed. I am looking at buying brake shifters meant for an eleven speed, are these two components compatible?

My thinking is they will be but I just wanted to see if I could get some reassurance before I made the big purchase.

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No, you need 9 speed shift/brake levers
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Nio, 11-speed shifters are by no means compatible with a 9-speed derailleur or cassette. Why would you think they are? Also, a 7-speed rear wheel is not compatible with a 9-speed cassette and an 8/9/10-speed wheel is not compatible with an 11-speed cassette.
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Okay, thanks. I figured that that extra couple gears on the shifters would just not be used. I upgraded the wheels as well and they have a 9 speed cassette.
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Originally Posted by Jgarcia2020
Okay, thanks. I figured that that extra couple gears on the shifters would just not be used. I upgraded the wheels as well and they have a 9 speed cassette.
It's more than just a couple of extra clicks. The cable pull and derailleur geometry are different between 9-speed and 11-speed and, again, your 9-speed wheels are not 11-speed compatible.
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I have a near new pair of Shimano trigger (brake/shifter combo) for trade, if you are interested. (Flat bar, v brakes)
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Okay. Right, I get that.
Thanks again.
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Are they for mountain bikes or road? I am looking for road brake shifter levers.
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Are they for mountain bikes or road? I am looking for road brake shifter levers.
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What rear derailleur do you have? Also what hub/cassette are you using?

FYI, brands have different requirements for index shifting and not always compatible. Index shifting came about in mid-80s, some older RD didn't take this into consideration.

This info will help us to make recommendations.
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I purchased a nine speed 105 group-set (cassette, rd, fd) that came off a salsa jake the snake.
Thank you, I appreciate your concern.
I just wanted to check whether or not one could mix and match rd and brake shifters.
I've since learned this can not be so.

Thank again, kind sir.
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@jgarcia202 - It is complicated. The key elements to align are the spacing between sprockets on the rear hub, RD pull ratio and shifter pull ratio. Very easy to experience incompatibility, even within a manufacturer offerings over time.

It can be done. I have Campagnolo drive train using a modified spacing on a Dura Ace cassette. I knew the RD and Ergo's were compatible but the spacing of the sprockets did not match the movement of the RD.
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Originally Posted by Jgarcia2020
I purchased a nine speed 105 group-set (cassette, rd, fd) that came off a salsa jake the snake.
Thank you, I appreciate your concern.
I just wanted to check whether or not one could mix and match rd and brake shifters.
I've since learned this can not be so.

Thank again, kind sir.
If you have the 105 (5500 series) parts listed above, it should be reasonably easy to get brake shifters that are compatible. Any of the older 9 speed road shifters will work. The late '90s - early '00s shifters in the 7700, 6500, 5500, Tiagra 9 speed series are all designed to work together. These are no longer made but can be found used, just need to find something in reasonably good condition.

The Sora line was made in 9 speed more recent and should also be compatible.

Not quite sure what is currently produced in 9 speed and if they are different. If you plan on using some of the latest models post a question here and someone will probably know if there are any issues. A new thread with the model # will probably get the best responses.

To make index shifting work well, the chain needs to be compatible and the rear dropout hanger must be properly aligned.
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