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Old 06-19-21, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by skidder
Depends how you define 'quality.' I use the standard water bottles found in bike shops, Walmart, REI, and other similar places. I don't particularly like the drinking methodology necessary while riding so I'll occasionally stop and take a 'chug' on a long ride. It works for me, so that's my level of quality. I also use the freezing half-filled water bottles in the freezer method for keeping cool water on hand, too.

Those Nalgene water bottle holders shown above look interesting. Anybody have a link to a website where they can be purchased? (I've got lots of 1-liter bottles).
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Old 06-19-21, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
What would be perfect for you is one of those bottles, but with the lid technology on the Bivo. And why on those bottles you showed, don't the makers just build in a little indent for standard bottle cages to hold better?
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/01/bivo...cusing-on-air/
They are not standard size. They are 32 and 40 ounce bottles. They will even take 48 ounce nalgene bottles. The widefoot cages can take these bottles. https://widefoot.com/fit-guide/

LiterCage Fit Guide

The LiterCage stainless steel bottle cage fits most 3.5″ diameter bottles.
Listed below are products which our customers have seen success in carrying.

Aquatix:
40 oz Insulated*

Blackthorn:
32 oz Stainless Steel Wide Mouth*

DICK’S Sporting Goods:
32 oz Push Pull Water Bottle

Fifty/Fifty:
40 oz Stainless Steel Wide Mouth*

Hydro Flask:
32 oz / 40 oz Wide Mouth*

Kinzi:
32 oz Wide Mouth*

Kleen Kanteen:
40 oz Classic

MiiR:
32 oz Howler*

Mizu:
36 oz V12 Insulated Wide Mouth Bottle
Mueller:
32 ounce Quart w. Push/Pull Cap

Nalgene:
32 oz – Wide Mouth / Narrow Mouth
48 oz – Wide Mouth / Narrow Mouth**
38 oz Stainless Steel*

Nathan:
24 oz DoubleShot
32 oz BigShot

Polar Bottle:
42 oz Insulated Bottle

Primus:
1.5L Fuel Bottle*

Note:
*Use of an additional strap is recommended for these oversized or metal bottles to eliminate any rattling.
**We recommend using 3-hole mounting bosses when carrying these larger bottles
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Old 06-21-21, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
What would be perfect for you is one of those bottles, but with the lid technology on the Bivo. And why on those bottles you showed, don't the makers just build in a little indent for standard bottle cages to hold better?
https://cyclingtips.com/2021/01/bivo...cusing-on-air/
KleanKanteen has a variety of caps

https://www.kleankanteen.com/collections/caps

Check out the spots cap.
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If you can smell or taste the plastic, it is not good for you.
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Old 06-22-21, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
If you can smell or taste the plastic, it is not good for you.
Oh, how bad can it be?

Well, read this:

https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/

THEY are trying to kill us - one way or the other!
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Thank you for all the helpful advice. Reporting back:
We have started freezing our plastic bottles overnight. Fill 1/4 - 1/3 with water, and place them in the freezer, sideways maybe 30 degrees up so the water does not reach to the screw top (if the water freezes to the lid, it makes it hard to unscrew in the morning). Before the ride, fill them with cold tap water. The frozen walls/insulation and ice inside prolong the chill, which lasts for the duration of our usual (~3 hours) bike rides. Great solution!

I also bought a TravelKuppe. Quality materials, fit, and finish. Fits in a standard bottle holder, and is snug enough that it does not rattle. Keeps water cold longer than our usual rides (6+ hours). Comes with a second flip-out mouthpiece so you can use it one-handed. This seems to be best solution, and I might get a second one. Highly recommended!
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Originally Posted by kahn
Oh, how bad can it be?

Well, read this:

https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/

THEY are trying to kill us - one way or the other!
There is your proof that any kind of plastic is bad for you. As I posted use stainless steel.
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Old 06-27-21, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kahn
Oh, how bad can it be?

Well, read this:

https://scitechdaily.com/biologists-...-plasticizers/

THEY are trying to kill us - one way or the other!
There is your proof that any kind of plastic is bad for you. As I posted use stainless steel.
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Old 06-27-21, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by koenbro
That's exactly the point -- reducing the core temperature just does not happen with water that hot.
Its temperature is not why you drink water though.

You drink water to not die when you've sweat out too much of the water that was in your body. And pretty soon that water needs to have supplemental electrolytes for the same reason of replacing what was lost to sweat, the alternative being disorientation and death.

As for the premises of the temperature of the water itself, one might note that there are cultures which consider hot tea cooling. And there's some truth to that, because of the sweating.

Personally I don't want to drink hot water on a ride, but I also don't want to (or more realistically just can't) take in cold. When I make a store stop on a serious ride I'm always trying to find the shelf with what hasn't yet gone in the cooler. If I'm forced to buy it cold I have to carry it a few miles before I can drink it. Being inside in heavy A/C isn't great either - shade and a breeze makes for a nice stop, but sudden A/C screws with the mode settings on the internal systems. After moderate hot weather activity cold drinks and strong AC are nice - but on all day summer rides I can't deal with them

If you do want to bring water in something insulated, then the larger the capacity and the more spherical the shape, the better, because it's about ratio of volume to surface area. Little 750 mL bottles are terrible in that regard, tallboys of the same diameter to still fit in a cage scarcely better. Ideal would be some sort of single (or internally divided) rounded-cube type tank behind the saddle (or on the bars like in the old days), but a pair of squat liter bottles there could work. Or a camelback type approach has a good surface to volume ratio if you can tolerate having it on your back.

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I have the plastic insulated ones from camel and the major brand that slips my mind atm. They where fine if I freeze them the night before and last about an hour or two in the hot sun.

If I really want cold water I use Travel Kuppe Vacuum Insulated Stainless Steel Cycling Sports Water Bottle

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

on bumpy roads it can rattle and vibrate. Kind of annoying. it stay way colder for way longer.
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Each water bottle in this list has been reviewed and approved by our team of experienced editors.Our team of experienced editors has researched the market and surveyed user reviews to find the best water bottles. We also use our own experience to help us choose the best.We can safely say that we have ridden thousands of miles each with every kind of water bottle imaginable, and that we have stumbled upon a few great options based on price, performance, ease-of-use, cost, and sometimes even aesthetics.
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The hotter it is, the less insulation you need because you finish the bottle of water faster. No need in hot summer temps for a bottle to keep your water cool for 6 hours. just IMO
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
The hotter it is, the less insulation you need because you finish the bottle of water faster. No need in hot summer temps for a bottle to keep your water cool for 6 hours. just IMO
That's been my experience, too. I run out of water before it gets problematically hot.

I do have recollections of occasionally finding a little unpleasantly warm a few years back, but that's probably when I had just one bottle behind the seatpost and would use it last, sometimes forgetting about it or carrying it through a refill stop.

Especially in hot weather always replace whatever's left in the bottles at a refill stop. Old water washes hands, wets headsweats and sunsleeves, gets flung towards bushes, etc, new water goes in the bottles.
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Each water bottle in this list has been reviewed and approved by our team of experienced editors.Our team of experienced editors has researched the market and surveyed user reviews to find the best water bottles. We also use our own experience to help us choose the best.We can safely say that we have ridden thousands of miles each with every kind of water bottle imaginable, and that we have stumbled upon a few great options based on price, performance, ease-of-use, cost, and sometimes even aesthetics.
And the winner is (drum roll, please).....
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And the winner is (drum roll, please).....
NFS chain lube.
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