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Old 01-14-20, 12:35 AM
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I love vintage bikes expect for...

Vintage Campagnolo prices.
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Originally Posted by MDS61
I hate friction shifters
You all get the pitchforks and I'll light the torches

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Old 01-14-20, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemosengineer
I love vintage bikes expect for...

Vintage Campagnolo prices.
Heh, modern campagnolo prices aren't much better...
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Old 01-14-20, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
Unhooked rims were okay with stiff wire-beaded tires that held their shape and at moderate pressures, but with more modern and less stiff wire beads - or with any of the foldable/Kevlar beads forget it - if they aren't perfectly seated concentrically, they tend to blow off the rims at even 60-80psi.
I did just get some wire bead 27x1 1/4" paselas for my unhooked rims from 1972, they certainly went on the rims easier than the old tires, those were impossible to remove or replace without tire levers, the pasela went on without tire levers, but did require most of the strength of my thumbs to get the second bead on, considering the looser fit I was a bit nervous. I aired them up and they actually didn't want to seat up properly, IMO this is largely because the beads/sidewalls of the paselas are so grippy,so I spritzed both beads with windex and aired them up again and they snapped into position at ~80 PSI. So far so good for me, but I will certainly be keeping an eye on them. I will be running 55 PSI up front and 65 in the back, so I'm really not in the danger zone of potential bead pop off. But I weill certainly be keeping an eye on them.

Does anybody ever rub a bit of candle wax on the bottom edge of the bead of the Paselas when they are new to get them to seat up properly? I
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Egad!

Spontaneous Hubic Combustion!
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Disappointed by a 35+ year old Miche hub yesterday when I found it had popped while the bike was sitting!
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Old 01-14-20, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MDS61
I hate friction shifters
Chamois butter helps.
From what I've been told.
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Bike forums gold!

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Old 01-14-20, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MDS61
I hate friction shifters
I don't a road bike with index shifters! All of mine (the four road bikes) all have vintage SunTour barcons and six-speed freewheels! The Three-speeds - well, they were always 'index'-shift I guess. The MTBs are as well, but I don't really do any off-roading with them where that 'positive-shifting' is necessary.
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Old 01-16-20, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by desconhecido
I happen to have, these days, a bunch of bikes with center pull brakes and I'm satisfied with the way they work just fine. MAFACs, Weinmanns and the DiaCompe Weinmann copies. Back in about 86 I put a pair of Dia Compe GC500 sidepulls on a bike and they were pretty darned good single pivot sidepulls. I think a lot of my current satisfaction with old centerpull brakes is due well-trued wheels. Also, those grey pads and the KoolStops help a bunch.
Completely agree!
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Old 01-16-20, 09:45 AM
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Agreed - 78 Moto GT

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unobtainium bearing races, be it Super Record crown race, Mallard hub or even DA 740x hub race. Bent and broken axle stops.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
Anti-stop brakes...
True that!
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.. Except for Bianchi, Pinarello and Colnago. Of course I would dig a 50ies specialissima or a 60ies Colnago, but most are mass produced/outsourced very average bikes of their Era, nothing to them that a lot of competitors with less glamorous names didn't have as well.
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Freewheels, especially 5 speed.
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Old 02-21-20, 07:19 PM
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Helmet straps.

Have you ever tried to put on one of those old Cinelli helmets (the "hairnet" ones, if you want to go totally c+v) without leaving ligature marks around your neck? I'm convinced at least one person has accidentally asphyxiated themselves with an old Cinelli helmet.

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Originally Posted by martl
.. Except for Bianchi, Pinarello and Colnago. Of course I would dig a 50ies specialissima or a 60ies Colnago, but most are mass produced/outsourced very average bikes of their Era, nothing to them that a lot of competitors with less glamorous names didn't have as well.
I've always respected Bianchi in a weird way for this. They're like the Ford Motor Company of Italian bikes- there's something very egalitarian about how they were willing to put their brand name on the hallowed bikes of Coppi and (insert Italian cycling mythos here), but then go ahead and put that same brand name on a plain black Bianchi city bike. In the age of Specialized/Trek/Cdale/Giant/etc doing the exact same thing, maybe that's a silly thing to praise, but out of all the Italian companies, they always did seem the most like the everyman's bike company.

It also allowed them to do a lot of cool stuff, mostly involving 80s Japanese bikes with awesome Japanese tubing of that era. Some of them were mid-entry level bikes, sure, but a Japanese Bianchi with Ishiwata or Tange tubing will ride wonderfully, and Viratas with Tange Prestige are absolute killers. And early Bianchi mountain bikes might not have been Italian, but a Bianchi Grizzly/Super Grizzly will always be hot.
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Old 02-21-20, 09:27 PM
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I love vintage bikes except for ...

There's only one of me and there's six of them.

Maybe if I drop acid..?

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Oh, galvanized steel spokes. I have a 51 Raleigh Sports with stainless spokes -- why were we still using galvanized steel spokes on much finer bikes into the 70s and occasionally later? It's my guess that the SS used in bke spokes can reliably be drawn to the tensile strength of the galvanized steel spokes without creating a product which is not sufficiently fatigue resistant and working in a manufacturing/production/shop environment is much happier with stainless. Working with galvanized wire, drawing it, forming it, dirty nasty processes. And, the galvanization offers no strength so you end up with a weaker wire for a given wire diameter, No, I think everyuthing about stainless spokes is better. We almost never complain about well made spokes fror reliable manufactures not working when properly used. At least, that's my impression.
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Wide bars and indexed shifting.
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When I started playing this game I was quite adamant about keeping things stock. Then I got OK with upgrading with period correct-ish parts. Then I got OK with the modernization of old frames. Now I'm all about keeping old stuff that's cool to me, and using new stuff that I think is cooler or better.

But I am still pretty firm into the keeping a "classic" appearance.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
When I started playing this game I was quite adamant about keeping things stock. Then I got OK with upgrading with period correct-ish parts. Then I got OK with the modernization of old frames. Now I'm all about keeping old stuff that's cool to me, and using new stuff that I think is cooler or better.

But I am still pretty firm into the keeping a "classic" appearance.
Amen, Golden Boy....
yet there is a big diference between Restoration vs. Modernization....kinda like Restored Antique Cars vs. Rat Rods vs. Hot Rods. Only one is pure, the others, corruptions.

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Originally Posted by sheddle
I've always respected Bianchi in a weird way for this. They're like the Ford Motor Company of Italian bikes- there's something very egalitarian about how they were willing to put their brand name on the hallowed bikes of Coppi and (insert Italian cycling mythos here), but then go ahead and put that same brand name on a plain black Bianchi city bike. In the age of Specialized/Trek/Cdale/Giant/etc doing the exact same thing, maybe that's a silly thing to praise, but out of all the Italian companies, they always did seem the most like the everyman's bike company.
A lot of other companies did the same thing - Legnano, Maino, Ganna, Girardengo - basically all of them that had risen above "manufactory" and had become a factory did that. I guess the science of branding wasn't invented yet bianchi of course always was one of the, if not the biggest ones.

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I'd love an old city bike like that- I think Bianchi had a few recent models which were explicitly supposed to be something like that, but were Europe-only.
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Originally Posted by sheddle
I'd love an old city bike like that- I think Bianchi had a few recent models which were explicitly supposed to be something like that, but were Europe-only.
Looks like a Bianchi-made folding military bike.
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