iab

My 8 regular readers may recall my first thread - https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-dropouts.html

A mid-1930s Pagliati with Campagnolo's first gen dropouts (although I believe there is an earlier version, but those could be prototypes). Nothing nefarious, I'm gonna build that bike someday.

I have no interest in another bike except.... I regret not purchasing a 1952 Maino, then this popped into my feed, a 1951 Maino with first gen Gran Sport dropouts. 4mm screws and the derailleur stop at 4 o'clock instead of normal 7 o'clock. Campagnolo made these for a hot minute in 1951. Now I get to spend 20x on the proper rear derailleur than I did on the frame. Oh joy.

Maino 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 02 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 03 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 05 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 06 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 07 by iabisdb, on Flickr

Maino 08 by iabisdb, on Flickr

OTS 

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Schweinhund

Never seen a brake bridge quite like that. It's a work of art. The whole thing is.

iab

Oh. You are gonna wait. There is nothing that will go fast in this money pit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhHjACjJjA

juvela

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Agrati "AM" pattern lugs with the points removed from the feature cut
have not seen this arrangement previously

what year did Cesare Rizzato get the rights to the Maino marque?


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merziac

@iab

I love it when this happens, you get to go down a long dark road and we get to go along for the ride.

Fortunately for me, when I had the money, I didn't have the sense, now I have neither so I'm safe for the time being.

Should have committed to something like this while I still could.

Fantastic project.

Spaghetti Legs 

Lotta cool features on that bike.

Is that your bike workshop? Kinda feel like one might need a white lab coat to work in there

stardognine

I like it, and it doesn't hurt, that it's a cool color. 👍

Are those fender eyelets threaded? Something tells me no, they were made for nuts & bolts. 🤔

gugie 

4 o'clock stop on a Campy dropout? Learn something every day, did not know they were ever made.

I like the way the threaded hole is beefed up where the 4mm dropout screw goes in. They should have kept that feature.

iab

This particular dropout is 6mm thick. Later in 1951 it changed to 7mm thick with a 4mm screw at and stop at 7 o'clock. In 1952 it changed again to 7mm thick with a 3mm screw.

ehcoplex 

Wow- that seat-post collar is something else! And the seat-stay brake bridge too!

repechage

huh, I have a bike that might be a year or two older than I thought. Of course dropouts did not really have model years back then. Mine is 4mm and 7'. Mine has been sitting longer than any of your projects. One day in Retirement.

I'm sure it wears the wrong color, but not to far from McLaren Orange, so should be fast.
just don't paint it Silver, there are too many silver bikes now.

looks Long, back during the era where generous wheelbase was a feature.

iab

This is the 1952 Maino I didn't buy. I'd want something similar.

Scambio 088 by iabisdb, on Flickr

repechage

handsome bike there. Good color, obviously not purchased due to the much later pump.
that probably if offered was not cheap.

possible terrific saddle on the black bike behind

SJX426 

@iab - Fantastic looking frame set! cool lugs and the brake bridge looks like a bridge!
Would you mind adding a picture of the other side of the post collar? I would like to see what he bolt and nut look like that I need to match for the Frejus.

tiger1964 

No chance of fabricating a thin washer with a tab bent over to simulate the three missing hours? I'd start with a fender washer and start cutting...

Eh, maybe that would not work.

79pmooney

It can be done. I "ISO'd" a Heuret on my Raleigh Competition. I forget what I did and it was way too much work. Bike went in for paint, braze-ons, etc and the dropout got properly and permanently ISO'd.

iab

BFisher

Very cool. Love the seat post clamp and headbadge.

P!N20

Or a straight jacket

obrentharris 

Agreed.
A big part of why I greatly enjoy iab's build threads is the education I receive about the obscure build details that I have never before seen, and may never see again.
I suspect that a large part of the attraction of this frame was exactly the challenge of finding the right parts and building the bike accordingly.

Sounds like a good excuse for another trip to Italy!
Brent

smontanaro 

You have that about right. It's kind of a cross between a museum and a Porsche engine build room. Fortunately, without the roped off sections with the "Do Not Enter" signs.

repechage

there was one room in the house that was always kept locked, in this case it is the basement.

iab

Drywall, paint and a laminate floor. Combined with the janky old crap I have accumulated over the last 20 years in a subterranean display instead of being heaped in a pile/closet/drawers. Not much of a museum or German shop.

Schweinhund

I disagree. Your wallet will be emptying fast, lol!