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Old 05-25-16, 09:42 AM
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The roof rack thing: I've shared this story before, but oh well. There is a former pro motorcycle racer that lives in the area. This is a human who is capable of making many important decisions with lifelong implications at speeds we can not comprehend. He bought a nice Mini Cooper and had it all blacked out and put a roof rack on it. I think it was maybe 2 or 3 months later I found out he smashed the bikes going into a parking garage or something like that.

I mean seriously, if a MotoGP race winner can't manage to not destroy bikes on a roof rack, there isn't much hope for the rest of us. I will avoid them like the plague.
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Going from 2% to 3% is only 1%... except that it's a 50% increase, which is a liiiittle significant. That, coupled with knowing that many sales managers will respond with, "you want more commission? So sell more," leads me to believe that that request may be a tough row to hoe.
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Originally Posted by topslop1
What's the reasoning / incentive here to not inflate actual salary, if even slightly?
I think it's a basic "Hey, maybe don't lie" kind of thing.
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Old 05-25-16, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
I've been gone for 9 months... what did I miss?
Your avatars. Oh! What did *you* miss? Not much.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
The roof rack thing: I've shared this story before, but oh well. There is a former pro motorcycle racer that lives in the area. This is a human who is capable of making many important decisions with lifelong implications at speeds we can not comprehend. He bought a nice Mini Cooper and had it all blacked out and put a roof rack on it. I think it was maybe 2 or 3 months later I found out he smashed the bikes going into a parking garage or something like that.

I mean seriously, if a MotoGP race winner can't manage to not destroy bikes on a roof rack, there isn't much hope for the rest of us. I will avoid them like the plague.
Every dollar counts. I wouldn't do a roof rack, I'd stash the bike inside the car awkwardly before I'd do roof rack.
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
Yeah, back at the bike shop we had a crabon bike that had been absolutely destroyed because someone had it on top of the car and drove into the garage. A steel bike would have come through it A-okay and everything would have been great unless it damaged the garage door.
Well, with a steel bike you've got to be extra careful - might take down the garage.
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Old 05-25-16, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Your avatars. Oh! What did *you* miss? Not much.
Did SoloistAssassin ever reappear?
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I think it's a basic "Hey, maybe don't lie" kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
There is a former pro motorcycle racer that lives in the area.
Ben Spies? Kenny Roberts Jr.? Nicky Hayden?

Pretty short list for American GP winners of an age that would want to drive a mini cooper
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I think it's a basic "Hey, maybe don't lie" kind of thing.
Do you even business?
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I think it's a basic "Hey, maybe don't lie" kind of thing.
Well said.

It's an integrity thing, and that still caries weight. Once they find out you inflated that number, and they will, they can dig deeper, watch closer, or just plain close any further discussion with you.
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
Did SoloistAssassin ever reappear?
He eventually popped back in, was cool and relaxed for a few hours and then, at the first sign of adversity, compared the mods to Nazis and was promptly banned, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Well said.

It's an integrity thing, and that still caries weight. Once they find out you inflated that number, and they will, they can dig deeper, watch closer, or just plain close any further discussion with you.
Got it.
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Originally Posted by topslop1
Do you even business?
Do you even decent human being? Oh wait, you're in business...
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Originally Posted by topslop1
Do you even business?
Stop. Many here business. There are times to bull**** and people to bull****, but you're likely trying to bull**** a better bull****** than yourself, in this case.
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Stop. Many here business. There are times to bull**** and people to bull****, but you're likely trying to bull**** a better bull****** than yourself, in this case.
****ing awesome.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
Ben Spies? Kenny Roberts Jr.? Nicky Hayden?

Pretty short list for American GP winners of an age that would want to drive a mini cooper
Yes, Ben Spies. Cool guy. He was a Specialized sponsored rider and the team he owns/runs is now sponsored by them as well. But he always came to our shop (we are not specialized dealers) because our shop actually knows their stuff. I sold him a bike once for his then girlfriend and now wife and mother of his daughter.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
He eventually popped back in, was cool and relaxed for a few hours and then, at the first sign of adversity, compared the mods to Nazis and was promptly banned, IIRC.
That's a distant 2nd in forum meltdowns compared to the guy who decided to fill the 41 with graphic pr0n .GIFs as a giant middle finger to Billy.

I don't get the meltdown thing. If you got fired, would you go set your desk on fire and throw your computer out the window to "stick it to the man"?

Anyway, that's a rhetorical question because we don't need to talk about those that are no longer with us.
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This is seriously off-topic even for this thread except it does kind of affect the tiny amount of bike riding I do. (Speaking of which, I was driving to work this morning and saw several barely paved streets I'd like to explore further this weekend. The weather is decent today and I probably should have just called in and used one of my personal days. *sigh*) One of the reasons I moved to Wyoming is everyone kept telling me there would be different plants here and I could kiss 75% of my allergies "Goodbye". About six weeks ago, I went to the doctor because I was having a pain in my side by my ribs. She said she thought I might have overstressed something by coughing or sneezing too much or too hard. She also said my allergies seemed to be out of control. She said that it would take about six months for me to be sufficiently exposed to sagebrush and some of the other local plants to become allergic and by then we'd be in snow season again. We did a week of oral steroids combined with ten days of antibiotics because a handful of the seniors and a former officemate of mine all had pneumonia. And she gave me a prescription for Clarinex. I knew from experience that the steroid course would help me smell and taste things again but, surprisingly, when I was done with that and was taking only the Clarinex everything was still good. Then about two weeks ago, the lilacs started to bloom and the cottonwood trees started to bud and I feel like I'm right back where I started. But here's my question: The doctor said if I needed to, I could take Benadryl but then I saw the articles linking Benadryl use, especially by people over 55, to a 54% increase in the chances of developing dementia if they used it for more than three years. I'm not over 55 but I can guarantee that I have ingested a sufficient amount of Benadryl to equal every day for more than three years. I know nobody says "Yippee! It looks like I'll develop dementia" but this has been a major fear of mine pretty much from the time I was a kid. (My mom helpfully pointed out that stress and worry also contribute to an increased risk. Thanks, Mom.) I'm currently losing between 20 and 90 minutes of sleep a night to my nose starting to run like a faucet in the wee hours of the morning, I'm not sleeping very well when I am able to lie back down, and we have yet to start seeing those floaters from the cottonwoods drifting through the air. So, what the heck do I do? Is the Benadryl going to be safe? Are there homeopathic formulas I could/should be taking? The doctor also told me that pollen can travel up to 300 miles so we might as well consider ourselves to be living in a pine forest. Does this mean LoP and I will need to move to Antarctica or Africa after this?
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
That's a distant 2nd in forum meltdowns compared to the guy who decided to fill the 41 with graphic pr0n .GIFs as a giant middle finger to Billy.

I don't get the meltdown thing. If you got fired, would you go set your desk on fire and throw your computer out the window to "stick it to the man"?

Anyway, that's a rhetorical question because we don't need to talk about those that are no longer with us.

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Originally Posted by topslop1
Every dollar counts. I wouldn't do a roof rack, I'd stash the bike inside the car awkwardly before I'd do roof rack.
You can also do a roof mount, but not on the roof.
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
I've been gone for 9 months... what did I miss?
Dude! You're back! So cool. As for what you missed? Holy crap. Where to begin?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
He eventually popped back in, was cool and relaxed for a few hours and then, at the first sign of adversity, compared the mods to Nazis and was promptly banned, IIRC.
So... SSDD.
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Believe me, I understand your thought process. The problem is that the salary you claimed you are currently at is deceptive at best. In the work world these days most prospective companies do not call previous employers for references. However, a prospective company will contact past employers to verify employment and salary and that's about it. There may be a bit of a discussion about what your job duties were/are. There will not be a discussion of how well you performed your tasks, your relationship with co-workers, your relationship with outside job related contacts, your ability to show up to work on time, or how many times you came back from lunch drunk. Those discussions open you a whole spaghetti bowl of potential litigation.

The discussion would go something like this:

Good afternoon Mr. Transistor, this is Mr. rpenmanparker and I am the HR director at Cannondale. I'm calling to verify employment of Mr. topslop1.

Good afternoon Mr. rpenmparker, how may I help you.

Mr. topslop1 is applying for a sales position here at Cannondale. His resume indicates that he started at Specialized in May 2012 and is still currently employed there. Is that correct?

Yes Mr. rpenmanparker, that is correct.

During the interview, Mr. topslop1 indicated that his salary is $58k, is that about right?

No Mr. rpenmanparker, that's about 10% too high.

Okay Mr. Transistor, thank you for your time, have a great day.

Thank you Mr. rpenmanparker, you have a great day as well.

Mr. BillyD, this is Mr. repenmanparker from HR. I'm calling about that candidate for the sales position you have open. Remember Mr. topslop1?

Yes...

I just called Specialized and they verified that his employment dates are correct, but, they indicated that the salary he told us he was making is about 10% too high.

Okay, scratch that one off the list.

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@Ramona_W do you and Lester have some sort of air purifier in your bedroom? No idea if that will make a difference or if the allergens are already in your sinuses from a day outside once you come home to sleep, but if not it may be worth trying to at least see if you can get a better night's sleep.

That sounds awful, though. My wife has a lot of allergies but Claritin D seems to keep her in check 90% of the time.
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