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05-26-22, 08:31 AM
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Actually, rereading your post, if it were me, I would try and find a early 90s Waterford Paramount frame for that Dura Ace group. Thats what I did for an early DA 7400 group, gave up on the seatpost, and went with some Campy dual pivot calipers I had, over the single pivot DA ones.
91 Waterford Paramount
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05-26-22, 08:34 AM
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05-26-22, 08:37 AM
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Dig the old-school Blackburn stand too! Just saw an ad for them in an old Bicycle Guide.
The Waterfords were true works of art for the most discerning of tastes...I believe the OS's were made in Waterford, as well, but lacked a certain something...
The Waterfords were true works of art for the most discerning of tastes...I believe the OS's were made in Waterford, as well, but lacked a certain something...
05-26-22, 08:42 AM
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05-26-22, 08:44 AM
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I believe the DA 7402 brake lever, which looks identical, and has the return spring, is the one you are referring to. I wholeheartedly agree, and wish that’s what was actually on the bike.
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05-26-22, 08:47 AM
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Thanks, but unfortunately those are DA 7401 brake levers, no return spring, and you need a special ferrule to keep the cable from binding in the lever.
I believe the DA 7402 brake lever, which looks identical, and has the return spring, is the one you are referring to. I wholeheartedly agree, and wish that’s what was actually on the bike.
I believe the DA 7402 brake lever, which looks identical, and has the return spring, is the one you are referring to. I wholeheartedly agree, and wish that’s what was actually on the bike.
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05-26-22, 08:57 AM
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In the early 90s the asian OS Paramounts were Tange Prestige, whilst the Waterford OS Paramounts were Tru Temper tubes. The non OS Waterford Paramounts I’m pretty sure from looking at the catalogs, were Columbus tubing, so the Waterford OS frames were lacking a certain something.
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05-26-22, 09:18 AM
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There's a review of the first OS Paramounts in the same old Bicycle Guide with the Blackburn ad. If I recall, they were initially made in Waterford, and accounted for 60% of the 1,500 frames they made a year. I'll double-check the article tonight and correct any inaccuracies I've made here.
The mid-to late 1980s Paramounts were made with SLX/SPX, unless you ordered a larger frame (which I did), and then it was SL/SP. My 60 cm frame also had a chainstay bridge, which bummed me out, because the smaller sizes didn't have that bit of extra steel.
The mid-to late 1980s Paramounts were made with SLX/SPX, unless you ordered a larger frame (which I did), and then it was SL/SP. My 60 cm frame also had a chainstay bridge, which bummed me out, because the smaller sizes didn't have that bit of extra steel.
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05-26-22, 11:36 AM
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I had built up my recently acquired 1995 Litepeed Ultimate frame with 7410-era Dura Ace. It was the bike I wanted more than anything back when that was all new. It was wonderful!
BUT, I'm 27 years older now, and 39x25 is not enough for the hills I want to climb. SO, I replaced it with R8000 Ultegra, but as I removed each part, I carefully packed them away. I'm not sure what I'll do with them, but I'm keeping them, for now.
BUT, I'm 27 years older now, and 39x25 is not enough for the hills I want to climb. SO, I replaced it with R8000 Ultegra, but as I removed each part, I carefully packed them away. I'm not sure what I'll do with them, but I'm keeping them, for now.
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05-26-22, 11:44 AM
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Perfect? No.
Much Improved, however.
YMMV
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05-27-22, 04:05 AM
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The brake calipers are excellent if you use the correct long pull levers.
They will work ok with short pull or sti but not optimal.
They will work ok with short pull or sti but not optimal.
05-27-22, 05:39 AM
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P1020132 , on FlickrConverted to Campagnolo (as an Italian bike should have) Racing T with 9 speed. This pic still in process of adjusting cockpit
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05-27-22, 07:12 AM
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Pretty much any really nice period correct (ish) frame sold as a frameset rather than a complete bike would be appropriate.
Merckx for sure (this one is a little earlier, but you get the idea)
Here's a '93 Merckx Corsa Extra with 9 speed but 8 speed would have been correct:
Schwinn Paramount (again, a little earlier)
Or a nice American made Richard Sachs (this one a '78):
Merckx for sure (this one is a little earlier, but you get the idea)
Here's a '93 Merckx Corsa Extra with 9 speed but 8 speed would have been correct:
Schwinn Paramount (again, a little earlier)
Or a nice American made Richard Sachs (this one a '78):
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I vote for a Merckx 7-Eleven or 10th Anniversary frame. Or a Somerville Merlin.
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05-27-22, 08:35 AM
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Oh my gosh, that '93 Merckx Corsa Extra is gorgeous!
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Stem
I have the elusive stem that I was going to part with at some point. It is in 80 cm and has the plastic plug that is chipped. Nice aluminum ones are available. I just returned from vacation and was going to get around sometime to posting it. Just mentioning it. I do know these bring a fair bit of money, so may post on appraisal site first for value.
05-27-22, 10:52 AM
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You can get original or reproduction caps for little money. Originals were made in both metal and plastic.
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Tony,
This one is going to be available. Smiles, MH
This one is going to be available. Smiles, MH
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Oh, man...that is so very tempting, Mad Honk!
I just sent you a PM, as am very reluctantly passing on the Pinarello.
I just sent you a PM, as am very reluctantly passing on the Pinarello.
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Don't know if you found the hoods for the brifters yet, but here is an NOS set on Ebay $99 BIN:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/11539742777...IAAOSw6l1iZYl2
https://www.ebay.com/itm/11539742777...IAAOSw6l1iZYl2
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Just can't see spending that on hoods. My eventual build will be functional, but certainly not pristine.
I ended up patching my well-used hoods with a product called Sugru, then coated them with Liquid Electrical Tape.
They turned out decent, and I've now got money to spend on a stem and seat post!
I ended up patching my well-used hoods with a product called Sugru, then coated them with Liquid Electrical Tape.
They turned out decent, and I've now got money to spend on a stem and seat post!
06-03-22, 07:29 AM
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There's a review of the first OS Paramounts in the same old Bicycle Guide with the Blackburn ad. If I recall, they were initially made in Waterford, and accounted for 60% of the 1,500 frames they made a year. I'll double-check the article tonight and correct any inaccuracies I've made here.
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that is some sexy steel!!
Steve in Peoria
(and credit to Bicycle Guide... their photography was excellent!)
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06-03-22, 11:28 AM
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No, but thank you for posting that, I can't wait to read it! Such a gorgeous piece of rideable art.
I'll post the issue month and year when I get home. I'm sure you have it, and can post it here for comparison.
I'll post the issue month and year when I get home. I'm sure you have it, and can post it here for comparison.