Why is so much clothing dark colored.
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Because?
Because in low light and shadows it makes you virtually invisible to vehicles?
Because on really hot days you want to attract as much solar radiation as possible so you can bake?
Because you must be “on trend” with fashion as dictated by marketing companies so they can sell more product?
Because you like to live life dangerously?
Because dark is associated with being evil and “bad @$$”?
Because you must conform to your peers or face their ridicule?
Because you never considered any of the above?
OR
Because it looks cool?
OR
Just because?
Would really like to know your rationale.
Because in low light and shadows it makes you virtually invisible to vehicles?
Because on really hot days you want to attract as much solar radiation as possible so you can bake?
Because you must be “on trend” with fashion as dictated by marketing companies so they can sell more product?
Because you like to live life dangerously?
Because dark is associated with being evil and “bad @$$”?
Because you must conform to your peers or face their ridicule?
Because you never considered any of the above?
OR
Because it looks cool?
OR
Just because?
Would really like to know your rationale.
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I think a lot of people start out in light clothes, but they get seduced by the dark side.
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It is true, my last ride of 64 miles I saw numerous people wearing the "bike gear" jerseys pants all dark colored. Why do you need a $100 jersey to ride a bike? I saw a guy riding in 90 degrees with a long sleeve jersey, really?? I wear a $10 high viz construction tee and am totally comfortable, guarantee you I am way more visible than the blue jersey guys. Bike shorts under my cargo shorts yes, fingerless gloves yes, helmet for sure anything else is vanity unless you are a racer.
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I for one welcome the -new to me- trend of colored shorts/bibs. Besides the classic navy variation I've seen maroon, grey, green, purple, etc. I have a pair of teal bib shorts on the way that I look forward to using on the bike and hopefully get the Specialized maroon one soon too. For jerseys, the brighter and more obnoxious, the better, though I'm not particularly fan of hi-viz yellow.
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I prefer brighter colours for visibility. My training kit is all Castelli and Santini - so orange jersey's for Winter mainly. My Summer kit is orange, purple, pink (Giro d'Italia kit), red and white mainly. Only jerseys, my bib's are all black with a colour trim at the end - red, white, orange etc.
Helmet's one orange and 2x white. Shoe's 1x white and 2x yellow. Rain jacket is a bright yellow but never needed it; I typically don't ride in the rain.
Racing kit is team stuff and that is all multi-colour with sponsor logo's all over.
Basically, my kit is colourful and bright. I still have a tail-light on my bikes though.
But even on a warm Summer's day, not a cloud in the sky, bright conditions, tail-light on, looking like a marsh-mallow in bright Giro d'italia pink jersey, black bib's with white trim, white helmet, white shoes, bright red Trek Madone SLR, a lady still managed to not see me and drive into me - thankfully I saw it coming and managed to swerve so avoiding a big accident.
Helmet's one orange and 2x white. Shoe's 1x white and 2x yellow. Rain jacket is a bright yellow but never needed it; I typically don't ride in the rain.
Racing kit is team stuff and that is all multi-colour with sponsor logo's all over.
Basically, my kit is colourful and bright. I still have a tail-light on my bikes though.
But even on a warm Summer's day, not a cloud in the sky, bright conditions, tail-light on, looking like a marsh-mallow in bright Giro d'italia pink jersey, black bib's with white trim, white helmet, white shoes, bright red Trek Madone SLR, a lady still managed to not see me and drive into me - thankfully I saw it coming and managed to swerve so avoiding a big accident.
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Personally I'd rather wear a dark, stealthy, muted jersey and ride with a couple flashing lights.
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Though some do show up better in car headlights. This shouldn't be a debatable topic really.
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Also, IIRC, studies have shown that bright elements in motion are far more effective than those that are relatively static. IOW, bright jerseys aren't terribly effective but bright socks are.
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I can't speak to why there's a lot of folks wearing black or dark clothes but there is a science behind black garments. They actually keep you cooler than white or bright colors. The beduins of the Sahara wear multiple layers of black because black absorbs heat. Now I hear the questions: yes so why would you wear black???
Well, they wear black next to the skin and black absorbs heat from the body too. Will this make a difference if you're only wearing one black layer? Probably not, but after living in Arizona for a few years a lot of people out there wear black shirts in the dead of summer. Now I know why, the amount of heat black absorbs from the sun when it's 115 degrees isn't that much different than a lighter colored shirt but it also absorbs the heat from your skin. Weird as it may seem, I felt actually cooler wearing a black polo than a white one. That's where the humidity is in the single digits in the summer though.
I now live back in North Carolina and that same black polo shirt in 95% humidity feels like a wetsuit! Single layer light colored shirts for me here.
Well, they wear black next to the skin and black absorbs heat from the body too. Will this make a difference if you're only wearing one black layer? Probably not, but after living in Arizona for a few years a lot of people out there wear black shirts in the dead of summer. Now I know why, the amount of heat black absorbs from the sun when it's 115 degrees isn't that much different than a lighter colored shirt but it also absorbs the heat from your skin. Weird as it may seem, I felt actually cooler wearing a black polo than a white one. That's where the humidity is in the single digits in the summer though.
I now live back in North Carolina and that same black polo shirt in 95% humidity feels like a wetsuit! Single layer light colored shirts for me here.
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I can't speak to why there's a lot of folks wearing black or dark clothes but there is a science behind black garments. They actually keep you cooler than white or bright colors. The beduins of the Sahara wear multiple layers of black because black absorbs heat. Now I hear the questions: yes so why would you wear black???
Well, they wear black next to the skin and black absorbs heat from the body too. Will this make a difference if you're only wearing one black layer? Probably not, but after living in Arizona for a few years a lot of people out there wear black shirts in the dead of summer. Now I know why, the amount of heat black absorbs from the sun when it's 115 degrees isn't that much different than a lighter colored shirt but it also absorbs the heat from your skin. Weird as it may seem, I felt actually cooler wearing a black polo than a white one. That's where the humidity
I now live back in North Carolina and that same black polo shirt in 95% humidity feels like a wetsuit! Single layer light colored shirts for me here.
Well, they wear black next to the skin and black absorbs heat from the body too. Will this make a difference if you're only wearing one black layer? Probably not, but after living in Arizona for a few years a lot of people out there wear black shirts in the dead of summer. Now I know why, the amount of heat black absorbs from the sun when it's 115 degrees isn't that much different than a lighter colored shirt but it also absorbs the heat from your skin. Weird as it may seem, I felt actually cooler wearing a black polo than a white one. That's where the humidity
I now live back in North Carolina and that same black polo shirt in 95% humidity feels like a wetsuit! Single layer light colored shirts for me here.
OK, I was skeptical about black being cooler than say white, so I used THE Google and learned this from the NPR site, “"Unfortunately sunscreen sometimes affects sweating," Havenith said. "So the sunscreen then might reduce the amount of sweat evaporation or the amount of sweat production. So that's where things again could go wrong."
So if you're exercising in the heat, wear as little as possible, especially after the sun goes down.
But if you're not an Olympic track star, skimpy Spandex is not the way to go. Think light and loose. That's because even if you don't feel like you're sweating, you still want to evaporate moisture off your skin. The loose clothing allows air to pass long the skin and exit, speeding evaporation and carrying off excess heat.
Enlarge this imageBedouins stay cool because their robes are so thick.
iStockphoto.comAnother big question in the summer clothing world is color: dark or light?
Researchers have studied the heavy black robes worn by Bedouins in the desert. They say the key there is thickness. The outer layer of fabric does get hotter because the black color absorbs more heat. And that heat doesn't get transmitted to the skin because of the thick fabric.
But thin black clothing transmits that heat to the skin, making a person hotter.”
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Man after all these years being wrong. Lots of variables but science does bear you out.
I too did the research and, dang, the guy was right. Now, that said, I don't see the same cooling effect here in North Carolina when we have those 95 degree days with 95%+ humidity. It's hot and sticky and sweaty no matter what we wear but light colored shirts do seem to keep me cooler when it's really hot and really humid. For 85 degrees or less, I wear my black Nike or Underarmor polos.
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"In Thailand, where I ride frequently, it's very common to see Thais riding in long sleeves, full fingered gloves, and also tights. Many also cover their faces. It's all to protect them from exposure to the sun as they don't want their skin to get brown. All this despite the temps being in the 90's with very high humidity."
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I don't know where you are getting this from. I never once stated I wear two pairs of shorts when riding and I understand why some people wear long sleeves when riding in 90+ degree heat. Here again is my post from #171.
"In Thailand, where I ride frequently, it's very common to see Thais riding in long sleeves, full fingered gloves, and also tights. Many also cover their faces. It's all to protect them from exposure to the sun as they don't want their skin to get brown. All this despite the temps being in the 90's with very high humidity."
"In Thailand, where I ride frequently, it's very common to see Thais riding in long sleeves, full fingered gloves, and also tights. Many also cover their faces. It's all to protect them from exposure to the sun as they don't want their skin to get brown. All this despite the temps being in the 90's with very high humidity."
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OK, I was skeptical about black being cooler than say white, so I used THE Google and learned this from the NPR site, “"Unfortunately sunscreen sometimes affects sweating," Havenith said. "So the sunscreen then might reduce the amount of sweat evaporation or the amount of sweat production. So that's where things again could go wrong."
So if you're exercising in the heat, wear as little as possible, especially after the sun goes down.
But if you're not an Olympic track star, skimpy Spandex is not the way to go. Think light and loose. That's because even if you don't feel like you're sweating, you still want to evaporate moisture off your skin. The loose clothing allows air to pass long the skin and exit, speeding evaporation and carrying off excess heat.
Enlarge this imageBedouins stay cool because their robes are so thick.
iStockphoto.comAnother big question in the summer clothing world is color: dark or light?
Researchers have studied the heavy black robes worn by Bedouins in the desert. They say the key there is thickness. The outer layer of fabric does get hotter because the black color absorbs more heat. And that heat doesn't get transmitted to the skin because of the thick fabric.
But thin black clothing transmits that heat to the skin, making a person hotter.”
So if you're exercising in the heat, wear as little as possible, especially after the sun goes down.
But if you're not an Olympic track star, skimpy Spandex is not the way to go. Think light and loose. That's because even if you don't feel like you're sweating, you still want to evaporate moisture off your skin. The loose clothing allows air to pass long the skin and exit, speeding evaporation and carrying off excess heat.
Enlarge this imageBedouins stay cool because their robes are so thick.
iStockphoto.comAnother big question in the summer clothing world is color: dark or light?
Researchers have studied the heavy black robes worn by Bedouins in the desert. They say the key there is thickness. The outer layer of fabric does get hotter because the black color absorbs more heat. And that heat doesn't get transmitted to the skin because of the thick fabric.
But thin black clothing transmits that heat to the skin, making a person hotter.”