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Road Etiquette Question: Hopping on a stranger's wheel?

Old 07-20-22, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Old guy, really mashing it hard. He was too out of breath to try to converse. Thankfully he didn't fart or shart or anything.
Hey, that comment resembles me!?!
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Old 07-20-22, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
would you have preferred to be undisturbed
Being drafted without asking is disturbing.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
He didn't even say hi when he first caught your wheel? the segment youre describing is at least 6 miles. People are too reluctant to say hi and exchange pleasantries with their fellow riders. "Avoiding" drafting on a road with heavy bicycle traffic like Canada is ludicrous, and people who get upset by it are IMO delusional.

are you mildly miffed at the silent canada drafter? yeah he didn't thank you but would you have preferred to be undisturbed? Honest question not trolling
He might have thought I drafted him from the stop sign, but that wasn't the case. He'd gotten a fair distance ahead, but I was steadily gaining on him from the overpass all the way up to the peak, then he sat up and I came around.

That particular time, I didn't mind. But it was my choice to let him stay there and not do anything to get rid of him. I certainly wasn't going to ride him off my wheel.

EDIT: 3 1/2 miles, actually, from the top of Canada just past the last side road, to the Water Temple.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:20 PM
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I disagree that all danger is for the follower. I race cross and the #1 a-hole move is when someone dive bombs a corner too hot and you decide whether to let them cream you and your bike or slam on brakes/swerve. Same for a rando following you. If there's a squirrel or you simply brake hard to turn and they lapse looking they're going to plow you.

As the person in front in an organized group usually will hand gesture or audibly call obstacles and stoppages. I care not to have to do that on a solo "for me" ride.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SpedFast
Hey, that comment resembles me!?!
All's good as long as you don't leave detritus in your wake.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
He might have thought I drafted him from the stop sign, but that wasn't the case. He'd gotten a fair distance ahead, but I was steadily gaining on him from the overpass all the way up to the peak, then he sat up and I came around.

That particular time, I didn't mind. But it was my choice to let him stay there and not do anything to get rid of him. I certainly wasn't going to ride him off my wheel.

EDIT: 3 1/2 miles, actually, from the top of Canada just past the last side road, to the Water Temple.
not to derail but this has to be atleast 5 or 6 miles. The last stopsign coming from woodside to the water temple? thats like 6 or 7 miles or am i going crazy.
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After getting hit by a car about a year ago, the vast, vast majority of my cycling is on the trainer on Zwift. Occasionally, when riding solo (usually because I got spat out the back of the pack in a race), I find myself drafting behind someone for a while where it's just the 2 of us and I just don't have enough left to take a pull (but want to go as fast as I can because it's still a race even if I got dropped, so I'll take their draft as long as I can). If I notice it's a woman, I always wonder if I should say something like, "hey, thanks for letting me draft you, I promise I'm not some sort of creepy stalker", but that would only make me seem more like a creepy stalker. Same as when I'm heading out to the parking garage late and night and there's a woman ahead of me also walking to the garage. I tend to walk fast (long legs, big stride), so I know it seems like I'm coming up on them, but I don't want to change my pace in response to them either because then it seems like I'm following. At least in that case, I can stop and "tie my shoe" to let them get ahead because it's not a race.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
not to derail but this has to be atleast 5 or 6 miles. The last stopsign coming from woodside to the water temple? thats like 6 or 7 miles or am i going crazy.
You're going crazy. From the stop sign at Jefferson to the Water Temple is 3.28 miles, per Strava.
EDIT: All of Canada Rd, from 92 to 84 is only 7.3 miles. 2.2 miles from 92 to the Water Temple, 3 miles from there to the top, 2 miles from the top to 84.
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Old 07-20-22, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You're going crazy. From the stop sign at Jefferson to the Water Temple is 3.28 miles, per Strava.
EDIT: All of Canada Rd, from 92 to 84 is only 7.3 miles. 2.2 miles from 92 to the Water Temple, 3 miles from there to the top, 2 miles from the top to 84.
LOL I was coming down from canada college and asked some dude how far away the water temple was and he said 5 miles. was basing it off of that. Must have been closer to 2.5. Im often absentminded on the bike watching a video on youtube or something so distances can be hard for me. Thanks for clearing it up
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
LOL I was coming down from canada college and asked some dude how far away the water temple was and he said 5 miles. was basing it off of that. Must have been closer to 2.5. Im often absentminded on the bike watching a video on youtube or something so distances can be hard for me. Thanks for clearing it up
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Old 07-20-22, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
LOL I was coming down from canada college and asked some dude how far away the water temple was and he said 5 miles. was basing it off of that. Must have been closer to 2.5. Im often absentminded on the bike watching a video on youtube or something so distances can be hard for me. Thanks for clearing it up
Dude, you best not be watching a video on your phone while riding all up in my ass. I'd be pissed.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Canada has to be more that 8 miles long, youre lying to me
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Canada has to be more that 8 miles long, youre lying to me
It absolutely is not. In fact it isn't even 8 miles long.
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7.4 miles per google maps
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5,514 km from Cape Spear, Newfoundland and Labrador, to the Yukon and Alaska boundary. That's a long-ass way to draft someone without saying anything.
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Originally Posted by himespau
5,514 km from Cape Spear, Newfoundland and Labrador, to the Yukon and Alaska boundary. That's a long-ass way to draft someone without saying anything.
Took me a minute.

The thing is, putting the ~ over the n is a PITA.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Took me a minute.

The thing is, putting the ~ over the n is a PITA.
I could point out, as I often do, that's there's actually no obligation to carry over foreign diacritics into English. We arbitrarily transliterate certain languages when we write them in English; there's no reason it can't be done for all.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Canada has to be more that 8 miles long, youre lying to me
Indeed, it's more than 4,300 miles long.
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Can we have a thread on waving now?
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Can we have a thread on waving now?
There's no waving emoji on BF -- that should tell you all you need to know.
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Originally Posted by himespau
5,514 km from Cape Spear, Newfoundland and Labrador, to the Yukon and Alaska boundary. That's a long-ass way to draft someone without saying anything.
Originally Posted by Camilo
Indeed, it's more than 4,300 miles long.
himespau beat you to it.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I could point out, as I often do, that's there's actually no obligation to carry over foreign diacritics into English. We arbitrarily transliterate certain languages when we write them in English; there's no reason it can't be done for all.
If you’re not going to care about tildes, you might wish a Spanish-speaking friend a happy new anus.
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If you’re not going to care about tildes, you might wish a Spanish-speaking friend a happy new anus.
But only if he has proven to need a new one....
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Originally Posted by caloso
If you’re not going to care about tildes, you might wish a Spanish-speaking friend a happy new anus.
I'd wish him a happy new year, or un feliz año nuevo. The latter is Spanish and the diacritics are... critical. I would not use "año" in English. This is simple and straightforward.
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